This one Has Got to be a Winner!

uhh...HELLO? This is what we're trying to tell you; your idea isn't 'realistic' in the first place!

It's pretty simple, criss. Just imagine the 3D image of a dot with little dots flying around it in rings. Even if the rings move, it's really ugly and boring.

Originally posted by crisshadnick

should be:
a few complex superscopes...but
~a simple look
~entertaining!
~not realistic...

Depends on the viewer: For a physician it's entertaining because it IS realistic. Otherwise I wouldn't have done it 🙂

Unfortunately I can't do a 3d model for the orbitals. (Unfortunately AVS can't do either, because it's so damn slow!)

Btw for all the major dudes:
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For the wishlist (okay, okay, it's a different thread):

Is it possible to render SMALL bitmaps? E.g.: 80*80 bitmap of an orbital (or leaves 🙂 ) that can move around anmd is only rendered according to its size (I guess EffectList affects the whole screen?).

Another wish: Most likely AVS interprets the code (like BASIC). Can it be compiled to increase speed?

For the last fucking time, 'major dude' is just a ranking based on post count. That doesn't mean we have the power to solve every single one of your problems.

but if the physician was at a party...and that atom was showing on a big screen, would he be entertained then?
doubtful.

If a physician at a party is still so much a physician that he bothers with the physical correctness of the visuals, then he needs to get out more 🙂.

thank you! my point exactly.
so...a little more imagination people!😱

I'm not saying it'll be incorrect, I'm saying it'll be ugly... Even if it WAS correct it'd be ugly.....

I dunno Artero. It's not exctly ground breaking, but it doesn't look too bad.

Originally posted by crisshadnick
but if the physician was at a party...and that atom was showing on a big screen, would he be entertained then?
doubtful.

Yours or mine? I doubt that anybody would be entertained by a central sphere and rotating circles. Especially if the movement is not at all related to music!

The major problem with all the presented atoms is imho that you know everything after - uhmm, let's say 5 seconds!? So what's the point? Even Jaheckelsafar's atom which is quite nice get's boring very soon.

And, last but not least, I haven't done my atoms for your entertainment, but I wanted to try what can be done with AVS and what cannot.

Btw: The best preset I've seen so far (okay, it's a short career o ftwo weeks) is Starchase by fck (in aapd3). Very impressive.

CU in Goa (where they have just static posters 3m*4m painted with luminescent colors)
Diesto

Originally posted by Atero
For the last fucking time, 'major dude' is just a ranking based on post count.

Ooops, and I thought I could become a Major Dude just because of programming skills. But then: there is your demand for aesthetics. May I quote from your posting regarding my Trance preset?!

Originally posted by Atero
Just because it's hectic doesn't mean it has to go with trance, and just because you want a trance preset doesn't mean you have to make it hectic. We're going for aesthetics here, and (no offense) that's not what you have in your trance preset.

Fortunately aesthetics is a very subjective sense. I like the Trance preset, you don't. Just fair. But I think resolution and frame rate are quite objective aspects of aesthetecis:

Nobody can call a resolution of 320*240 aesthetic (imho).

If in higher resolution the framerate goes down to 3-4 then music and visulaization simply can't fit: E.g. Trance has got 140 bpm. A framerate of 3fps gives 180 fpm. So you have to decide wether to dance according to music or the visualization??? 😕 🤪 😱 🙄

Okay, back to this thread. You said:

'major dude' is just a ranking based on post count. That doesn't mean we have the power to solve every single one of your problems.

You are not supposed to solve any of my problems! I just asked questions, that could be also seen as suggestions. So if you know the answer, I would be pleased to know. If the suggestions have already been made, forget it. But I don't think so, because I haven't seen them in UnConed's updated wishlist. So he might consider to add them.

CU in Goa (very relaxed 😎 )

Diesto

Next version of my atom, with proper rotation of the electron paths, speed improvements, strobe-a-riffic background, plus a new Electron!!!! (ohhh, ahh)

Diesto:

You probably like your own presets because you made them, and you're proud of them. That doesn't mean anybody else will like them. I've made a lot of stuff (not just AVS) in my life that I thought was pretty damn kickass, and had everyone tell me it sucks. That's just how it goes.

Also, resolution has just about zero to do with aesthetics. You can look at the Mona Lisa from 40' away or 2", it's gonna look the same. Also, have you ever even seen a preset with 3D ANYTHING? Low framerates simply come with decent 3D in AVS, period. But 3D is a whole lot more aesthetic than 2D.

If you're just watching AVS on your computer (and you have your screen set to 800x600 like a sensible person), then 320x240 is just fine. If you're VJing parties and wanna get paid big bux, then you want really fast twin processors and a lot of RAM so you can get 20-30 FPS at, say, 1152x864 with high-quality DM gridsizes.

atom2....best yet.

need more positive thinking out there. 👍

Originally posted by Jaheckelsafar
Next version of my atom, with proper rotation of the electron paths, speed improvements, strobe-a-riffic background, plus a new Electron!!!! (ohhh, ahh)

I dared to accelerate your preset from 8 to 32 fps (320*240 1Ghz) by:

- removing two effect lists for each electron
- removing misc/buffer save for each electron
- separating electron and its orbit (after and before Set Render Mode)
- removing Trans/Brightness and adjusting Fadeout

I think it looks quite similar - but it's four times faster now.

Avoid effect lists if they are not necessary!

Diesto

=> new versions below!!

GJ. Dunno why I didn't see that I could stick everything in the same effect list. Thanks.

I still like having the fadeout though.

four more versions

- 'explosion'
- moving atom
- two moving atoms
- QM version

🙂

Diesto

Now we're getting somewhere! I like the 'exploding' ones.

Where's mr. negativity?

anyway, good work.
(couldn't understand why all the effects lists either)

Now with occlusion behind the nucleus 🙂 (still needs a little work though)

The reason for the effect lists was so the electons would leave a kind of burn effect.

Fixed the occlusion and tweaked it a bit. This one is going to go into my pack. 🙂

you know, I think this whole atom idea of mine may have run its course...(yes, I know its been done before)
📻

I made one that totaly blows

Don't revive dead threads!!

You could show the preset to us I-Did-Your-Mom...Just a hint.

Maybe you shouldn't use what looks like moving particles to make the electrons?

he did...it was in another thread. somebody lock this.