This is somekind of a "standard" reply to new people who for some reason miss all of the helpful topics and the search warnings. I think that if this is just copy&pasted as a reply, we could eliminate some of the hostility around here towards new people. If you see a topic by a new member that you know has a answer already in some thread, just simply post this message to them and forget about it. None can acclaim after this that they haven't received any help or have experienced somekind of flaming.
This still might need a bit of work, so if you have any spelling corrections or suggestions, post them. I'll update it as long as i can. To get the "source text" so you don't have to quote this message and edit away this pre-speech, download this text file.
--- Standard AVS Reply ---
You have discovered AVS, that is wonderful, AVS can offer hours of fun and amazement, it is a fun tool to play with and it is a great thing to watch at while you play your favourite music.
However you have asked a AVS related question that has been asked & answered several times before. Here in the AVS forums we respect and value such skills as:
Searching
Simply put: Search before you post, you might have already seen the bold red letters above the posting window, or you might have missed them for some reason, maybe red isn't a striking or alarming color to you. By searching for the answer you're looking for, you will get the answer you want immediately, instead of posting a question that has been posted before and waiting for a reply which usually takes several hours, sometimes even days to get and it might not even be a reply you will appreciate.
Reading the FAQ
If you didn't know, FAQ stands for: Frequently Asked Questions, it simply is a list of questions and answers to questions that over the long period of time have been asked multiple times. Since answering these questions each time they are asked can get boring and time wasting, we prefer usually not to answer them directly, but rather point you to the FAQ, where a pre-written and descriptive answer can be read. The FAQ explains the situation and solution much better than a quick reply by someone else.
Checking out the tutorials
Striving to be an AVS artist? That is wonderful. Have a question about how to make something in AVS? Before you post this question it is recommended and expected by other AVS artists that you read the AVS tutorials enlisted here, before you post your question. The tutorials are a wonderful source created by long time AVS artists to learn the basics and sometimes even the more complex features of AVS. Realize that since this is a hobby for most of us, no one is going to hold your hand and teach you AVS from ground up. Believe it or not, but all of us have learned AVS by ourselves, some of the people who have been AVS artists for years didn't even have these wonderful tutorials at disposal and we had to learn everything by experimenting! You are indeed lucky to have such great resources available to you, use them well and wisely, but most importantly read them before you ask.
Remember these guidelines and you should have no problems in your AVS future. And welcome to the AVS forums 👍
- 📻 Winamp AVS team
The full and emptying answer to new people.
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so...
red = condescending
bold = sarcastic
underlined = extra sarcasm
right?
red = condescending
bold = sarcastic
underlined = extra sarcasm
right?
And here i thought this would reduce the hostility, silly me.
Indeed, i guess this is not a bad idea. Keep this Tug.
BTW: What has happend to this forum while i've been away?
I can remember a time when peopel tryed to be productive in here, there've been some avs contests and cool shit like that. Now as i come back, only few peopel of the old community are still there and all beeing lil' Atero's instead of using this forum in the way they claim they want it to: beeing produktive, exchanging skills and whatnot.
There always were and will be some n00borz, annoying the heck outa you, and even more some dumbasses loggin in on fresh accounts to provoke flaming discussions.
But what the fuck's the matter?
I guess what the REAL annnoying thing is, is the fact that there are more such sensless threads then usefull posts.
What can you do about it? Flame every dumbfucker and waste your time??
What you can do is:
-Post a Standard reply, the above one seems pretty good to me
-Let the thread die, for gods sake, or get it locked asap
-Post MORE usefull stuff in here, so the crap will look minor and will vanish to a tiny dot on the scale
Just my 2 cents, if you care.
If i've gotten a wrong point of view, feel free to enlighten me.
BTW: What has happend to this forum while i've been away?
I can remember a time when peopel tryed to be productive in here, there've been some avs contests and cool shit like that. Now as i come back, only few peopel of the old community are still there and all beeing lil' Atero's instead of using this forum in the way they claim they want it to: beeing produktive, exchanging skills and whatnot.
There always were and will be some n00borz, annoying the heck outa you, and even more some dumbasses loggin in on fresh accounts to provoke flaming discussions.
But what the fuck's the matter?
I guess what the REAL annnoying thing is, is the fact that there are more such sensless threads then usefull posts.
What can you do about it? Flame every dumbfucker and waste your time??
What you can do is:
-Post a Standard reply, the above one seems pretty good to me
-Let the thread die, for gods sake, or get it locked asap
-Post MORE usefull stuff in here, so the crap will look minor and will vanish to a tiny dot on the scale
Just my 2 cents, if you care.
If i've gotten a wrong point of view, feel free to enlighten me.
This was a bad idea, forget about this and let's go bash some n00bs!
Or we could use the standard approach...
Originally posted by TuggummiYeah probably more entertaining.
This was a bad idea, forget about this and let's go bash some n00bs!
Good point.
Your turn, next one's all yours.
Originally posted by TuggummiIt seems to work.
...
Believe it or not, but all of us have learned AVS by ourselves, some of the people who have been AVS artists for years didn't even have these wonderful tutorials at disposal and we had to learn everything by experimenting!
...[/B]
But this sentence should be revised. My proposal:
Believe it or not, but all of us have learned AVS by ourselves. Some AVS artist didn't even have these wonderful tutorials at their disposal and had to learn everything from scratch by experimenting!
Originally posted by Boktor...and this is why y'all are still admirable despite some occasional jerkiness. <shrugs>
Believe it or not, but all of us have learned AVS by ourselves. Some AVS artist didn't even have these wonderful tutorials at their disposal and had to learn everything from scratch by experimenting! [/B]
(To the noobs: take this example to heart. The poineers had to figure it out all by themselves!)
I can't edit the original post anymore, but the text file has been updated with boktor's revision and a changed a couple of words and styling on the first and last paragraph.
It can still be better, so keep em suggestions and fixes coming 🙂
It can still be better, so keep em suggestions and fixes coming 🙂
nice idea...
i guess we really should do contests around here
i guess we really should do contests around here
Originally posted by TuggummiI have a suggestion, under "Checking out the tutorials" maybe we could change
It can still be better, so keep em suggestions and fixes coming 🙂
"Striving to be an AVS artist? That is wonderful."
to
"Striving to be an AVS artist? Good luck, jerk."
How about it? 👍 👎
How about you keep up with the, uhm... well... you know... updates, which say:
Striving to be an AVS artist? Great! We like new people around here. Have a question about how to make something in AVS? Before you...
etc.
Striving to be an AVS artist? Great! We like new people around here. Have a question about how to make something in AVS? Before you...
etc.
Ah, a polite standard pre-recorded way to respond to ignorant newbies.
Great idea. We need this.
Now if only we had a polite standard pre-recorded way to respond to PAK-9!
Great idea. We need this.
Now if only we had a polite standard pre-recorded way to respond to PAK-9!
Originally posted by StevenRoyBut, there already is one.
Now if only we had a polite standard pre-recorded way to respond to PAK-9!
I'll have to remember that.
When all else fails, use "Duff" as a verb.
When all else fails, use "Duff" as a verb.
Some minor changes and deleted one "wonderful" world 😛
Also i thought it would be easier to make fixes and suggestions if the message would be posted here.
Source-text can be like always, be acquired from here.
<-- Standard AVS new member greeting -->
Hello new and enthusiastic member! You have discovered AVS, that is wonderful. AVS can offer hours of fun and amazement, it is a fun tool to play with and it is a great thing to watch at while you play your favourite music.
However it seems you have asked a AVS related question that has been asked & answered several times before. Here in the AVS forums we respect and value such skills as:
Searching
Simply put: Search before you post, you might have already seen the bold red letters above the posting window, or you might have missed them for some reason, maybe red isn't a striking or alarming color to you. By searching for the answer you're looking for, you will get the answer you want immediately, instead of posting a question that has been posted before and waiting for a reply which usually takes several hours, sometimes even days to get and it might not even be a reply you will appreciate.
Reading the FAQ
If you didn't know, FAQ stands for: Frequently Asked Questions, it simply is a list of questions and answers to questions that over the long period of time have been asked multiple times. Since answering these questions each time they are asked can get boring and time wasting, we prefer usually not to answer them directly, but rather point you to the FAQ, where a pre-written and descriptive answer can be read. The FAQ explains the situation and solution much better than a quick reply by someone else.
Checking out the tutorials
Striving to be an AVS artist? Great! We like new people around here. Have a question about how to make something in AVS? Before you post this question it is recommended and expected by other AVS artists that you read the AVS tutorials enlisted here, before you post your question. The tutorials are a wonderful source created by long time AVS artists to learn the basics and sometimes even the more complex features of AVS. Realize that since this is a hobby for most of us, no one is going to hold your hand and teach you AVS from ground up. Believe it or not, but all of us have learned AVS by ourselves. Some AVS artist didn't even have these tutorials at their disposal and had to learn everything from scratch by experimenting! You are indeed lucky to have such great resources available to you, use them well and wisely, but most importantly read them before you ask.
Remember these guidelines and you should have no problems in your AVS future. And welcome to the AVS forums 👍
- 📻 Winamp AVS team
Also i thought it would be easier to make fixes and suggestions if the message would be posted here.
Source-text can be like always, be acquired from here.
<-- Standard AVS new member greeting -->
Hello new and enthusiastic member! You have discovered AVS, that is wonderful. AVS can offer hours of fun and amazement, it is a fun tool to play with and it is a great thing to watch at while you play your favourite music.
However it seems you have asked a AVS related question that has been asked & answered several times before. Here in the AVS forums we respect and value such skills as:
Searching
Simply put: Search before you post, you might have already seen the bold red letters above the posting window, or you might have missed them for some reason, maybe red isn't a striking or alarming color to you. By searching for the answer you're looking for, you will get the answer you want immediately, instead of posting a question that has been posted before and waiting for a reply which usually takes several hours, sometimes even days to get and it might not even be a reply you will appreciate.
Reading the FAQ
If you didn't know, FAQ stands for: Frequently Asked Questions, it simply is a list of questions and answers to questions that over the long period of time have been asked multiple times. Since answering these questions each time they are asked can get boring and time wasting, we prefer usually not to answer them directly, but rather point you to the FAQ, where a pre-written and descriptive answer can be read. The FAQ explains the situation and solution much better than a quick reply by someone else.
Checking out the tutorials
Striving to be an AVS artist? Great! We like new people around here. Have a question about how to make something in AVS? Before you post this question it is recommended and expected by other AVS artists that you read the AVS tutorials enlisted here, before you post your question. The tutorials are a wonderful source created by long time AVS artists to learn the basics and sometimes even the more complex features of AVS. Realize that since this is a hobby for most of us, no one is going to hold your hand and teach you AVS from ground up. Believe it or not, but all of us have learned AVS by ourselves. Some AVS artist didn't even have these tutorials at their disposal and had to learn everything from scratch by experimenting! You are indeed lucky to have such great resources available to you, use them well and wisely, but most importantly read them before you ask.
Remember these guidelines and you should have no problems in your AVS future. And welcome to the AVS forums 👍
- 📻 Winamp AVS team
My change would be:
...Search before you post, you might have already seen the RED links above the posting window, or you might have missed them for some reason. By searching for the answer...
the paragraph as it is, is making too much fun of the reader/n00b imo.
changes so far are good!
GC
PS:
...Search before you post, you might have already seen the RED links above the posting window, or you might have missed them for some reason. By searching for the answer...
the paragraph as it is, is making too much fun of the reader/n00b imo.
changes so far are good!
GC
PS:
Originally posted by Tuggummi:Tuggummi, you must be in some depressive mood! 😛
...deleted one "wonderful" world
Damn 180 minutes goes by fast, i can't edit that previous post anymore 😔
Search before you post, you might have already seen the red bold letters and the search link above the posting window, or you might have missed them for some reason.
Good? No?
Text file updated as usual.
Originally posted by GrandchildI guess you're right, but notice that there is only one link, not links 😉 I edited that part of the text to be:
the paragraph as it is, is making too much fun of the reader/n00b imo.
Search before you post, you might have already seen the red bold letters and the search link above the posting window, or you might have missed them for some reason.
Good? No?
Text file updated as usual.
Originally posted by GrandchildNot really, im just a regular destroyer of worlds 😛
Tuggummi, you must be in some depressive mood! 😛
yep that's better now.
v good idea tuggummi, really!
GC
PS: there are several links, but only one for the search! :bigfatbitchyironicwinkemote:
v good idea tuggummi, really!
GC
PS: there are several links, but only one for the search! :bigfatbitchyironicwinkemote:
Hello, new and enthusiastic member! You have discovered AVS, that is wonderful! AVS can offer hours of fun and amazement; it is a fun tool to play with and it is a great thing to watch while you play your favourite music.
However, it seems you have asked a AVS related question that has been asked and answered several times before. Here in the AVS forums we respect and value such skills as:
- Searching
Simply put: Search before you post. You might have already seen the red bold letters and the search link above the posting window, or you might have missed them for some reason. By searching for the answer you're looking for, you will get the answer you want immediately, instead of posting a question that has been posted before and waiting for a reply which usually takes several hours, sometimes even days to get, and it might not even be a reply you will appreciate.
- Reading the FAQ
If you didn't know, FAQ stands for: Frequently Asked Questions. It simply is a list of questions and answers to questions that over the long period of time have been asked multiple times. Since answering these questions each time they are asked can become boring, as well as time wasting, we prefer usually not to answer them directly. Rather, we will point you to the FAQ, where a pre-written and descriptive answer can be read. The FAQ explains the situation and solution much better than a quick reply by someone else.
- Checking out the tutorials
Striving to be an AVS artist? Great! We like new people around here. Have a question about how to make something in AVS? Before you post your question, it is recommended and expected by other AVS artists that you read the AVS tutorials enlisted here, before you post your question. The tutorials are a wonderful source created by long time AVS artists to learn the basics and sometimes even the more complex features of AVS. Realize that since this is a hobby for most of us, no one is going to hold your hand and teach you AVS from ground up. Believe it or not, but all of us have learned AVS by ourselves. No AVS artist ever had these tutorials at their disposal, they had to learn everything from scratch by experimenting! You are indeed lucky to have such great resources available to you. Use them well and wisely, but most importantly read them before you ask.
Remember these guidelines and you should have no problems in your AVS future. Good luck, have fun, and welcome to the AVS forums! 👍
- 📻 Winamp AVS Team
-------------------------------
That's just my new spin on it. I've added a bit of formatting, removed some that was a little too condescending or sarcastic to me. I also changed a few words around, and fixed up a tiny bit of the grammer. Yay? Nay?
However, it seems you have asked a AVS related question that has been asked and answered several times before. Here in the AVS forums we respect and value such skills as:
- Searching
Simply put: Search before you post. You might have already seen the red bold letters and the search link above the posting window, or you might have missed them for some reason. By searching for the answer you're looking for, you will get the answer you want immediately, instead of posting a question that has been posted before and waiting for a reply which usually takes several hours, sometimes even days to get, and it might not even be a reply you will appreciate.
- Reading the FAQ
If you didn't know, FAQ stands for: Frequently Asked Questions. It simply is a list of questions and answers to questions that over the long period of time have been asked multiple times. Since answering these questions each time they are asked can become boring, as well as time wasting, we prefer usually not to answer them directly. Rather, we will point you to the FAQ, where a pre-written and descriptive answer can be read. The FAQ explains the situation and solution much better than a quick reply by someone else.
- Checking out the tutorials
Striving to be an AVS artist? Great! We like new people around here. Have a question about how to make something in AVS? Before you post your question, it is recommended and expected by other AVS artists that you read the AVS tutorials enlisted here, before you post your question. The tutorials are a wonderful source created by long time AVS artists to learn the basics and sometimes even the more complex features of AVS. Realize that since this is a hobby for most of us, no one is going to hold your hand and teach you AVS from ground up. Believe it or not, but all of us have learned AVS by ourselves. No AVS artist ever had these tutorials at their disposal, they had to learn everything from scratch by experimenting! You are indeed lucky to have such great resources available to you. Use them well and wisely, but most importantly read them before you ask.
Remember these guidelines and you should have no problems in your AVS future. Good luck, have fun, and welcome to the AVS forums! 👍
- 📻 Winamp AVS Team
-------------------------------
That's just my new spin on it. I've added a bit of formatting, removed some that was a little too condescending or sarcastic to me. I also changed a few words around, and fixed up a tiny bit of the grammer. Yay? Nay?
Just a few quick questions.
All other fixes and formating is a-okay, great actually 👍
AVS can offer hours of fun and amazement; it is a fun toolWhy the ';' ? A error or?
No AVS artist ever had these tutorialsNo AVS artist? Certainly they are available now atleast 😛
All other fixes and formating is a-okay, great actually 👍
I used the semicolon because I read that sentence as two separate clauses, though I may be wrong. Where are the local grammer nazis when you need them?!
The second part is a bit confusing to myself as well. "Some AVS artist didn't even have these tutorials at their disposal..." That confused me too so I tried to make it sound better, but you .... now it makes sense, in mid-typing! Maybe if you changed it back to what it was before, but made it "artists"? I don't know, nevermind. 😛
The second part is a bit confusing to myself as well. "Some AVS artist didn't even have these tutorials at their disposal..." That confused me too so I tried to make it sound better, but you .... now it makes sense, in mid-typing! Maybe if you changed it back to what it was before, but made it "artists"? I don't know, nevermind. 😛
Heh, it does say artist in the latest revision, that was a mistake, it should be plural. The very first version was: "some of the people who have been AVS artists for years didn't even have..." But then it got changed into "some AVS artists didn't have..." and i guess somewhere along the way typing mistakes were made.
And i have no idea how to even use a semicolon 🤪
And i have no idea how to even use a semicolon 🤪
When in doubt, wiki!
Sounds smart.
I'll apply the changes tomorrow, now im too tired to work on it (would probably just make more mistakes than fixes 😛) need to go to bed.
I'll apply the changes tomorrow, now im too tired to work on it (would probably just make more mistakes than fixes 😛) need to go to bed.
The text file has been updated.
It's basicly identical to denkensiefursich's revision, except this part:
The text starts to look pretty good btw. 🙂
Still if you have any suggestions, it's not too late to share them.
It's basicly identical to denkensiefursich's revision, except this part:
No AVS artist ever had these tutorials at their disposal, they had to learn everything from scratch by experimenting!Which was reverted to the original form and fixed to:
Some AVS artists didn't even have these tutorials at their disposal and they had to learn everything from scratch by experimenting!
The text starts to look pretty good btw. 🙂
Still if you have any suggestions, it's not too late to share them.
Realize that since this is a hobby for most of us, no one is going to hold your hand and teach you AVS from ground up.This should include the word "the" before "ground up". 🙂
I can't believe I didn't catch that before!
/slaps forehead 😛
I still think the word 'Jerk' doesn't appear half as often as it should.
Then post your suggestions here! We can all work together to make this thing better! 🙂