Various aspects tuning

Looks like you didn't get idea... Preset or else will not pop-up anything if you dont' want. Only if you choose first line in presets collection placed in separate folder - then browser with readme text will appear. This line can be separated from presets name by line - dont' click on it and you wont' get help. Even this line can be last...

About write APE - I'll think. If only it is possible create an APE which can access and change presets list collected by AVS. Right now I have no C++ compiler installed on home computer. At work I do rather different things.

How many times will we have to tell you this: *MOST* people will NOT know how to turn that feature on or off - once they turn it on it gets really annoying and they rant at us and stop using AVS, if they can't turn it on it's pointless.

You (and only YOU - guy with cat face) can tell this as many times as you wanna. Cause you finally lost discussion line... 😛

For others I post here picture - how it can look. This is a possible look of collection submenu. Right to this menu is common presets menu. Picture made in Photoshop of course. And I have a point - readme file can be automatically opened ONLY while collection installation. And better after request "View readme file" (Yes\No).

Fine then, completely shut out our logic and we'll shut out your stupidity. I agree with UnConeD - if you're so fucking bent on making this work even though NOBODY else wants it, then make your own fucking APE and watch your packs get twenty downloads and twenty 0 star ratings.

And yes I mean WE - I'd bet a million bucks 99% of the community here is smart enough to see how blatantly stupid your idea is.

WOW! GUYS! Here is a man with

$1 😁😁😁 😁😁😁 (one million)

and he wants give'em out!

Lets' just calculate - how many people are here and how many of us wanna have feature to create readme option. If we will get more than 1% of community - then we will share this $1 000 000 between all who said "Yes, I want this feature"! COMMON!!!

Ahem, if I may quote? Considering there's only about 20 people in this community in the first place...

Looks like you didn't get idea

Majority rules - and I'm pretty damn sure you aren't going to get more than 20%, let alone 50%. Even if you DID get half the community, that's still half that are opposed, and that's half the people's AVS that you're going to be virtually smashing to pieces since half the people that see yours are going to say 'screw AVS, it's a piece of shit.'

But no, it's all about you. You want it. You're going to get it. You are NOT going to give up, by God, you're not going to listen to any decent logic, you're not going to think about the downsides, you want it and you WANT IT NOW. Have some consideration, asshole 😠

On gourmet's idea :

Yes, but no...

Switching windowsize is all I want - It will help other people to get the most out of a preset, but...

1) Newbies will make this a source of problems. Defaulting it to off will only delay their pleads for help, not prevent it.
2) Newbies with fast comps might set it to a high resolution, which will annoy people with slower computer.
3) Newbies will have bad reactions to presets that change AVS around (Example : AVSociety packs...)
4) It's likely that only experienced people will use it properly - Newbies will do odd things with this, trust me.
5) Default resolution for non-windowsize changing preset.

So, my final decision? No. I like the idea and it might come in handy, but only experienced artists will use it properly, and with the sheer amount of newbies...

a) Make APE that pops up a browser window/ minibrowser (using DDE)
b) Make a preset including only this APE as "Readme.avs"
c) Make sure this preset shows up at the top/bottom of the preset list (extract them in the order you want them to show up)

Voila, you have your annoying feature without bugging anyone else :P.

you're not going to listen to any decent logic

Bother. You have no logic in your posts. Create preset or else and publish here - then I'll suppose you can think logically. Who are you? Owner of NullSoft? Author of AVS (with it's limited scripting language)? I'd better follow UnConed recomendations but not your's. Cause you have no recomendations. I tried find any component submited by you. No one. Since Jun 2001 - date of your registration - you didn't submit anything. You are just a "poster". Poster posting postings. They are not significant at all. You dont' give any positive idea cause you have no them. You are just characters on my screen wasting bits in RAM of my computer. Then shut up and go read manuals in the corner. Probably you will get smarter than lame moron. Someday.

Make APE that pops up a browser window/ minibrowser

When I'll have time - maybe I'll make it. Now I'm a businessman and have few of time to create anything more complex than presets. And I have another more complex idea about 3DVS - same as AVS but with OpenGL built-in. I'm going download and read NullSoft programming docs after NewYear. Until this I'll have no much time. And I have a point - readme feature must be supported by AVS intebally. To simplify create readme - just drop a text to folder and viola.

Can anyone tell me - does AVS allow for APE change collection submenu content?

I've submitted 4 packs - the nullsoft search engine just sucks, that's all. The first 3 were getting used to AVS, the other one was The Forward Flow 1.0 and it's on the presets forum somewhere, and on deviantART; I haven't gotten it submitted because some WA.com glitch won't let me. TFF2.0 is done, the installer needs work before I'm submitting it. TFF3.0 is started with 4 presets so far.

You, as far as I know, have submitted 1 pack of VU-meters, the easiest effects on earth.


Now, I've told you several reasons why this idea won't work; UnConeD and Nic01 have just repeated them. Newbies will not like this because they won't be able to figure it out - you were a newbie once (and as far as I can tell, you still are), think about it: You, at one time, fiddled with the undocumented settings of AVS to figure out what they did. Chances are nine out of ten people new to AVS are going to do the exact same thing and freak out when they see the window changing or jumping around on the screen when they don't know why, even if you provide a readme - who reads readme's anyway?

The only part of this that could possibly be useful would be radio buttons for "Snap window size to..." for 4x3, square etc. Otherwise we get complaints like "AVS is freaking out!!! PLZ HLP!!!!!1" As Nic01 said, with the sheer amount of n00bs that play with AVS we're gonna get swamped with shit like that.

I don't know how I can make that any clearer to you... 😔

I already told you - when you wanna answer me - think several times. Probably you tried. Unsuccessfully...

You, as far as I know, have submitted 1 pack of VU-meters, the easiest effects on earth.

1st - they are not effects. Dont' mix up effect and complete preset.
2nd - may be they are simple (for me) but no one created same before.
3d - You cannot calculate. There were 2 packs of VU-meters. Even you tried tell something stupid in comments for second pack. And there is already another one pack of presets submitted by me. All 3 packs appeared in 2 mounths. And latest packs already had several updates.
4th - "The easest" 1st pack earned more than 50 000 downloads in 2 mounths... If you would more clever - you'd probably understand - not complexity is important. "All genious is simple" - that is ancient truth.

I can point you to some WA2 skins and tool for creating skins. I posted them years ago under another nickname.

because some WA.com glitch won't let me

I've got those glitches - but asked about them, got answer from Rovastar and finally uploaded all. You cannot? That's not only server problem but more your's. Weak? Try Centrum.

I've got "The page cannot be displayed" while trying see your pack TFF on deviantart.com. 3 times. All other pages I see properly. Loser? Try other servers.

you were a newbie once (and as far as I can tell, you still are),

The mark "major dude" or "junior member" relates ONLY to registered nickname but not to a person. Name registered and relative to this site only. Do you understand what is "relative"?

Here I first typed then removed some words about much more complex (if you like complex) things I made and do now. At least I hardly used USENET since 1988 and Internet since 1994. If you still will think that I'm a junior - then I'll post some more words about me. Dont' call me junior or you will sorry.

see the window changing or jumping around on the screen

I talk only about readme feature through all latest several pages. README FEATURE for all kinds of presets. If you didnt' notice that probably you cannot read. I cant' help you in this.

who reads readme's anyway?

All who can read. That doesnt' relate to you.

I don't know

That's right!

Of course if I start talk to anybody - I suppose he is more smart than he finally shows...

A bit full of ourselves, aren't we...?

First of all I meant AVS newbie, which you have to have been because you can't be experienced at AVS the first time you use it - it's not documented at all. Even my AVS Primer (which I forgot to mention) isn't enough to go off of when you first are introduced to AVS.
I don't give a shit how many downloads you've gotten, you're still not good enough of an AVS-er that you can brag about them. Complexity doesn't actually matter in your actual presets; it's how complex you can make them that shows your experience.

I don't remember your second pack - frankly I didn't pay much attention to them. Also, just because you were first doesn't mean it's good. The reason nobody (else)'s done VU meters is because nobody has bothered with them.

And honestly, I wouldn't go to that much trouble just to get my packs submitted at WA. The Winamp AVS reviewers (staff and users alike) are assholes - you saw what happened to Whacko VI...The only reason I submit to deviantART is because it's quick and easy - I'm not "big enough" in the AVS community yet that they'd actually get very much attention. I'd MUCH rather post them here, to the people I know and who aren't just going to shoot it down at first sight.


Whether the AVS window is jumping around on the screen or popping up some annoying HTML document every time you load, it's still fucking annoying and nobody's going to look at any presets they saw that used this. Newbies would either abuse it and/or get fed up with AVS because of it. Once again - if you're so bent on getting this into AVS, WRITE YOUR OWN FUCKING APE.

Winamp AVS reviewers (staff and users alike) are assholes

Guys - I'd offend to this... And he took the right to speak on behalf of you all...

Whether the AVS window is jumping around on the screen or popping up some annoying HTML document every time you load

He finally prooved he is idiot... Sorry guys. I'll never answer him more. Unfortunately I cant' block his posts in threads I create?...

Argh shut up both of you. You haven't contributed anything significant to this thread in about 10 posts each.

Gourmet: if you want this feature, code it yourself or find a coder who'll do that for you. An APE cannot modify the menu's itself, but I layed out an easy way to get around this earlier, without having to recode AVS at all: i.e. everyone's happy.

Atero: if you don't like it, don't respond to it.

Oh and why the heck should the author of a thread be able to control who posts in it? There's no difference between replying to an existing thread or creating a new thread. In fact, implementing something liek this would probably make people create new, unnecessary threads for their questions because they want to be in control.

What, can't think of any more blatantly incorrect assumptions to spew? Good. Cos I'm fucking tired of your bullshit.


Oh, and maybe I should revise my statement: The consistent user reviewers are assholes. The staff reviewers are just blissfully ignorant of reality.