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cmountford#

LOTR fans!

This is for all you Lord of the Rings fans out there: it's not perfect yet, but it is kind of cool IMO. I've been tinkering around with several things trying to make a preset to resemble Sauron's eye. Some of them are obviously messed up, but I decided to include all of them. Tell me which you like best

I have a question for people like UnConeD: The Eye in the LOTR movie appears to be more like a "cat's eye." Could you give me some help in giving it the weird-looking thing in the center of a cat's eye? Feedback especially appreciated from those who have seen the Fellowship of the Ring.

All feedback is welcome positive or negative (please keep it related to AVS, though).

C.Mountford
Jaheckelsafar#
Well, I think my favourite out of the bunch was almost perfected 2.2, it is most like I remember the eye. I still think it needs work though. The problem is that it doesn't look like there's enough going on. I don't know what you add that wouldn't make it look over crowded.

😔 Sorry I couldn't be more help 😔
cmountford#
almost perfected 2.2 was my favorite, too

yes-that's my favorite. I still don't know how to make that cat's eye effect in the center of the eye. Maybe UnConeD can help. Thanks for the input.

Any other comments or improvements are welcome! 🙂
UnConeD#
Try a superscope to obscure it, like this:

frame: sd=1
point:
sd=-sd;u=i*2-1;
y=u*.9;
x=cos(u*1.565)*sd*.2

You'll probably want to use a low amount of points combined with a higher line width. The 1.565 should be pi, but to prevent weird line drawing caused by rounding off errors, I used a lower value.
cmountford#
thanks!

UnConeD-thanks a lot! 🙂 Your instructions really helped. Now I'll post a 2nd version just to make sure I did it right. I decided to leave the inside of the eye slightly fiery-so that's why I have so many different superscopes.
Jaheckelsafar#
Woah! I think you may have overdone the points on the superscopes. 1800? I took a zero off the end of all of the 1800 point ones and didn't notice a difference except for a jump for 8 or 9 fps.

It does look much cooler now. 👍
cmountford#
oops

Oops! I don't know what I was thinking whenever I made that preset 😁. Thanks for catching that for me-I will look at it tomorrow or ASAP (whichever comes first) 🙂 lol

--C.Mountford--
cmountford#
Where's all the LOTR fans?!?

Surely there's more Lord of the Rings fans out there, right? I've gotten good help on fixing up my preset from UnConeD, but I need some more suggestions on what to change.

If you're a LOTR fan, even if you know very little about AVS, please comment on my preset. Criticism, suggestions; they're all welcome! Just say whatever you think about the preset and we'll work on it.

"Peace" I shout over the roaring of the thunderstorm 😁

--C.Mountford--
Zevensoft#
In a LOTR related note (not really an AVS-related one), a large number of people have made OGL LOTR demos (Including my friend Graham Aldridge) for a contest, linkage here.
dromeda42#
uhm...i've tried to open up the visualisation, but my comp somehow won't let me...any suggestions?
cmountford#
how did you open it?

First, a little background information about how you opened it always helps 🙂

But I'll put a few possible suggestions. Because certain programs can override Window's built-in decompressor program's settings (or several other possible reasons), if your computer it doesn't recognize the .zip file after you download it, try downloading a copy of winzip at www.winzip.com

If you are using winzip, make sure you either set the destination to the AVS directory, which is usually located at c:\Program Files\Winamp\Plugins\Avs\. Or if you're unzipping to the default Winzip directory, you can copy the preset into the Winamp AVS directory.

If the preset unzips fine to the AVS directory, then I'll probably need to know everything you did and anything the computer prompts you to do. Then we'll work from there.

--C. Mountford--
cmountford#
any more ideas?

Is there a LOTR-related theme that you'd like to see in AVS? I'd like to hear some ideas!

Of course, comments & suggestions about my old preset are always welcome.

I want to make some new LOTR presets, but I'd like some input first

--C. Mountford--
cmountford#
Check out these presets!!!

Here's a couple presets that I think are greatly improved. Check them out & tell me what you think.

Again, I'm still waiting to hear ideas about Lord of the Rings themes that you'd like to see presets for. Comments and suggestions are always appreciated.
soulcatalyst#
sting

Nice work. I'm digging 'The eye fire.2'. Very sinister, very much on fire, very Sauron.

Anyway, here's an idea to kick around for another LOTR-type preset: How about something based on Frodo's sword, Sting? Maybe not using the sword itself, but with the feel of the weapon in mind...sharp, shiny, and glowing blue when the orcs show up...
uNDefineD#edited
Even though they don't really look like the eye, I still quite like these ones. Nice job!

BTW, even though it wasn't my intention, I thought my Blaze Ring kinda had the right effect going, if not the shape. Have a look.

EDIT: I remixed one of the latest ones.
cmountford#
I'm still here

Just wanted to let you know I'm still here and have been checking this thread as often as I can-and I've seen the two new posts-I've just been busy thinking.

...Thinking about "things that were...things that are...and some things that have not yet come to pass"
🙂
I've (actually) been trying to figure out how to make something like Frodo's sword Sting. (this is in respones to soulcatalyst's reply in this thread with the subject "sting). I've been thinking about a rotating superscope in the shape of a pointy object, preferably a sword. If possible, I'd like to use the RGB features in superscope to make it cycle through some "dull" color and a blue (symbolic of when the sword turns blue as orcs are near)
Or possibly have a DM distort it or something like that. I'm still not sure what approach would be best.

It may be too early for me to ask a good question for the smart people in the forum, but I just wanted to get my ideas down in writing before I forgot them 😁.

uNDefineD: Nice work on the ring. I liked how fiery it looked.

I'll get back as soon as I have a little bit more of a clue what I'm trying to do
cmountford#
Here's some modified presets of Sauron's Eye. Some of the modifications are hardly noticable, but I think one actually seriously improved the effect. These are just some of the ones I liked the best (even though Eye almost perfected 2.2 fire.2 didn't have the cat's eye)

What do you think about the idea of LOTR themed presets? Originality & stuff like that?

I appreciate any reviews, preset topic suggestions, criticism, remixes, or any other form of input.

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Secondly: I don't want somebody to exactly tell me what to do for this (I'd like to more or less come up with it), but I just need a few **hints** as to what sort of superscope/movement (or DM) combinations might accomplish the suggestion for Frodo's Sword sting and / or my idea for either Barad Dur or Mount Doom?

Again: I don't want exact instructions, I'd much prefer some hints that will get me started. I just have no clue what type of stuff I'm trying to make, so any input is welcome and appreciated.

Thank you very much
Jaheckelsafar#
You'd have a hard time making anything as complicated as a sword in a DM. Your best bet for a sword would probably a wireframe with a superscope. That gives a decent framerate (depending on how complicated your model is), and you can do a nifty glow/tracer thing. (see attached file)

It would also be easiest with multiple scopes.


As for the theme, I dunno how many presets based on lord of the rings you'll be able to make with the limitations of AVS. Good luck.
cmountford#
messed up sting

I changed your anyshape thing a little bit, but it morphs when I don't want it to. It'd be cool if I could add a handle at the bottom if I could get it to stop morphing what side the end to hold is. (basically-freeze it at an angle that makes it appear that the sword has a handle on the bottom instead of a randomly changing handle-you'll see when you download it.

I'm eager to see any remixes you guys might come up with. Or new ideas on how to make a better-looking sting than my remix.
ninfreak69#
I screwed around with the cat eye idea......i tried using the dot fountain and it looks kool......but the black mixes in a bit.....dont look all that bad....tell em what u think......i used ur 2.1 eye
UnConeD#
In the pack you put in a different thread, the point sizes for the cat-eye-shape superscopes are still waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too high (1800??). On top of that, you seem to use 5-6 superscopes... I can only think of 2 useful ones (one for fill and one for border).
ninfreak69#
i cant get rid of the damn colored pixels of dot fountain.....well it was a good idea.....just didnt work
cmountford#
reason

Yeah, the first one was a mess-up, but my newest one is much better.
In my newest one, however, the most n for init is 800 for my border around the eye. The multiple ones were originally to create a semi-opaque darker area that wouldn't bleed into the main fire part & "put the fire out." This allowed for the maximum fire while still having a little bit fancier cat's eye than I originally intended.

--edit: The preset is Sauron's Fiery eye.3--

UnConeD: Perhaps you can give me some advice on the sword. It morphs when I don't want it to (see previous reply of mine). Maybe 🙂

--Thanks--
Jaheckelsafar#
Hey, it's my scope, dammit. I can help too. You don't always have to go running to UnConeD. Now I'm offended. 🙂 🙂

Changing rcbs to 0 will stop the morphing. It's caused by the chaging radius of the points on the shape. (I thought the comment would be clear enough for customization) For the handle, just toss on another superscope. Shift the x1,y1,z1 values before the rotation (the sin/cos statements) to place it where you want.

Looks nice so far. 👍
cmountford#
it's my birthday!!!!

Thanks. No offense intended-just wanting a few more opinions since there hadn't been any new replies from others for a while and there had just been 2 replies from others. I actually thought this thread was dead (almost), but it turned out otherwise.

Thank you very much
Jaheckelsafar#
None taken. Just had parties to go to. 🙂

Happy b-day.

Just so you know, there's a typo.

"rc=if(rcbs,sin(rcc)*.02,rcb)" in the perframe section should be "rc=if(rcbs,sin(rcc)*rcb,rcb)"

Any ideas on how to make the scope easier to use, lemme know. That kinda how I designed it.
cmountford#
It was our birthday present, precioussss

"It was our birthday present, yesssss precioussssss." -- Gollum

I just had to say that...precioussss. Thanks for the help, I'll check out the SSC & post a reply with the zipped file as soon as I modify it.

"Don't hurt us, precioussss....with the nassssty cruel ssssteel."
cmountford#
lol

I forgot about the comment! I remember now looking at it once, but I guess I forgot it was there. Yeah-it was clear. I assume I'd change the second scope to be the shape I wanted for the handle, and then change the position to where I want, right?