Why is AVS going down?

Oh stop it already. No one wants to hear: "I would gladly help... if i just knew C/C++/assembly/python/goatse/java/html/php/icq/...whatever"

sorry tug, but can't you see our dilemma? We are very concerned bout avs, perhaps as much as every other of you; we just don't have any skills in programming-languages and so we're doomed to sit there and wait. That's in a similar manner nuisance for you than for us.

btw i have some basical skills at your last listed item 😉

one question i want to ask: who said AVS will die? that this forum is deserted? we are here, though a small community, we are here and we are interested in AVS. as long as we do that, it wont ever die. and if the forum dies, you will have winamp and AVS with it on your machine installed. i can easily make a new forum anywhere on the net, and use it for AVS purposes, should this forum die. now tell me, why is AVS going down.

AVS is never going to be updated
Tuggummi - Quit
UnConeD - Quit
Yathosho - Quit
etc...

It may sound like a cliche but when it comes to technology, your either moving forwards or your moving backwards... and we aint moving forwards.

hboy.....i dont think this forum will die ever. But AVS will, this forums will always be open for technical stuff i suppose. But AVS gradully will fade away......

Originally posted by Tuggummi
Oh stop it already. No one wants to hear: "I would gladly help... if i just knew C/C++/assembly/python/goatse/java/html/php/icq/...whatever"

oooh... i can help... i have a black belt in goatse




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You can wrap your goatse around your python for all I care

and if AVS doesn't improve? who cares? i don't. it was a really fun and good thing to spend a lot of time with, but seriously, is it such a big thing to care about? i don't think so.

Originally posted by WarriorO/TLight
Shreyas! long time no seen! Welcome back!
I've been missing you..

Funny to see how everybody's slowly returning..
Atero's been around again, Ishan, Jheriko and now you.
I hope these are no pre-mortal spasms.. 😎

I've been lurking too. 🤪

But are you still creating presets?

/update: horse-fly just quit too: http://horse-fly.deviantart.com/journal/4815208/

why am i still creating presets then? i love the suspense! 😛

No I am not creating presets anymore. Too many other things to do, and not enough time to learn new stuff.

Yeah, that's true: if you want to make new cool/ eyecatching presets today, you must either have a high coding skill or own a trained feeling for style or so.

AVS is art. All you need is the basic coding knowledge and to be a good artist

yes of course, but what i wanted to say was that the basic coding skills became much more extensive since the beginning/during the last years. I mean the basic coding standard has risen a lot, so you can't impress anyone with a style that has been done 2-3 years ago.

i'll keep making presets until AVS dies completely, hell i don't care that much about what other people think of them, after all, they are just to compliment your music.

yeah, i'll also keep making presets. It's too much fun to quit it just because the others quit.
Also: AVS is not down jet. So let's get back to work people!!

well as a matter of fact.....i dont have too much coding skills or technical knowledge. But i make AVS presets? I do it because I like it and i'm a firm believer that AVS presets dont neccesarily need to code heavy......Tugg has proved that in the past. Sometimes good aestheics rule over techincal stuff.


[fontsize=1] i know PAK's gonna flame me for this 😛[/fontsize]

well, actually i don't have great coding skills either but though am making presets.
I just meant that in the beginning of avs you could throw some simple-scopes/rings together and garnish it with a blitter feedback/water or a mirror if you really wanted to be cool to make a nice preset. But today only the fewest people think this is a great preset. Hope now it's clear what i meant at first?!

Isnt it funny how all the people who cant code for shit say "I dont really think coding is that important"

it's the same with all things you can't do properly:
or are you that concerned about extreme-rope-free-himalaya-climbing?

Originally posted by PAK-9
Isnt it funny how all the people who cant code for shit say "I dont really think coding is that important"

Yeah lol. All the stupid n3wbs who can't code sh1at!!!


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What? Why are you looking me like that?

ok ok.......so i admit that i cant code 🙄 😛 but hey i still standby my comment that there still can be good non-technical presets................

but seriously, i think i can do a bit better than just "throw some simple-scopes/rings together and garnish it with a blitter feedback/water or a mirror "😛

hey i didn't want to offend you ishan!!! Your presets are much better than that. Sorry if you thought that refered to you! Most artists today, make better presets than just throw together some simple stuff.
That example should only show, that the overall standard concerning presets has risen.

update2: P-K just quit too 😢

The thing is people usually quote Tugg when they talk about good presets without lots of code, but actually most of Tuggs presets have a fair amount of code in them, okay it might be a bit 'creative' but its still higher than the average AVS'rs standard

ok i understood PAK. no use of arguing now. There are only a few of us left.....and even few (non-retired) of the so called 'Elite' group.
I jus hope AVS drags on a little while more...........

Hey me too, dont get me wrong I wish AVS would become more popular than ever

However you might see it. I won't quit avs, just because someone says 'hey all presets made from now on have to be extremely code heavy'. That's stupid and contradicts the idea of visuals.

Mr_nudge put it very nicely: 'AVS is to compliment your music'. First of all presets should underline the music people are listening to, then they can be something like a techdemo or something. Of course you should keep an eye on style/art. Cause that "visual" part of your music should be just as great as those songs itself.

If you want to invent new techniques etc. why do you make it in avs? Most other programming languages are much more suitable.

OMG! i sense feelings in PAK. 🤪 😁

but really i wish the same too,AVS deserves more fame definately.