Hack the stuff?

As Rova and the others said: AVS is unlikely to be continued.

But if Nullsoft does'nt maybe we could. I don't know yet how exactly but maybe there is a way to reverse engineer the avs.dll and add own code.

M2K has already some experience in resource hacking and i got pretty for in manipulating the editor.

All we need within avs are more supported interfaces where ape's can link onto buffers etc.

If anyone has some experience with hacking programms then please share your knowledge.

Thank you

nope. i dont have any experience in it.🙁
and i doubt anyone has that good of hacking knowledge(excuse me if i am wrong)

fuck avs

huh!!??!!

No expierence, sorry. 🙁

I wouldn't really be able to do it. The most I've ever done with a hexeditor was with nintendo roms(max life, sweet items, etc).😛

Originally posted by Ishan_Rocky
huh!!??!!

face it, it is discontinued. let's don't start digging it out before it has been burried. i think we should focus on the fact, that we need to look out for something new. on long distance it's the better thing to do (the sooner, the better!).

let's see what this dilate project becomes, it could still be backward compatible to avs.

No matter how much I'd love to see a new AVS version, I think dilate probably is our only option left, Winamp *cough*aol*cough* would probably be much happier to finaly get our constantly bitching selves off their fourms. It's a sad reality.

When is the dilate project expected to be completed? This is the first I've heard of it.

Umm...Jan...to make it backward compatible, we need to have the source code to AVS.

Duh.

Maybe if the release a debug version or something...Or can someone request to give the code atleast...

I doubt they would give it away. And IF, then we'll have to BUY it for sure. Should be about 15000 Bucks or more.

Not really atero, we'd just need the AVS file structure (which we have) and would need to emulate files with the AVS header. We could even use the same format, and use a different header to specify that it's a dilate-compatible file. Hell, we could set it up to have hybrid files even!

would that mean we will stop using AVS? then make Dilate presets?will it be as good as it is expected?and will it have things like DM's and SSC's?

and will it be open source?

of course it will be. why do you think it's on sourceforge?
i do feel kind of edgy about this tho. it means that all of the 1337 coders will not be so 1337 anymore 😁

zeven: how do you propose that we emulate the effects then? it's not like we know precisely how they work. guestimating it wouldn't be a good idea imo...

Many of the AVS effects have already been reproduced in other ways, and most of the rest are just simple effects(blur, etc.).

dont know about you all, but i have doubts on this...

Colorfade IMO is the most misunderstood/not understood/confusing APE

Yeah. Colorfade is weird.

grr. i posted a clear explanation of it somewhere on the forums from avs primer pt I a while ago...too lazy to post it again.

Well atero, we could always hack the avs dll so that we can call functions from it directly.

Which was the original purpose of this thread 🙂

Using Resource Hacker, dialogues and stuff can be modified easily, but can we get the original code?

Im sick of avs anyway. I think Extra dimension will be my last pack. Dilate sounds like the future, but i just hope that it doesn't die like any other projects to replace avs...

And as for the avs support.... fuck it, i doubt dilate needs avs if it's going to be better than avs 🙂

Originally posted by Tuggummi
Im sick of avs anyway. I think Extra dimension will be my last pack.

Sounds like another retirement... 😔

Yep, that sucks hard. Don't you dare to quit AVS Tug! I'd kill you for it if I knew where you lived.

I don't think I'll ever officialy retire, that way I can always return, without looking stupid. I'll probably end up making maybe a few remixes for other people's packs.

And I also think you guys underestimate the amount of new options the new ape's like colormap and convolution filter have brought. I even dare to say that those two ape's have extended avs' life by a few years.

yeah, they are two awesome APEs. Now we just need someone to make some kickass CHIMPs for AVS.😛

Now we just need someone to make some kickass CHIMPs for AVS. 😛

Lol 😁

Retirment? Who said anything about that? I dunno, maybe it's just a phase im going trough 😁 Besides it's not that big of a deal if a avser quits, im not gonna go posting a mega-leaving-bye-bye-all message when i do quit. It's just gonna be over, like it or not :/

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