ZeroZero

5th January 2002 15:07 UTC

AVS to AVI , PLEASE MAKE THIS HAPPEN FINALLY
Me2 wanna record AVS to AVI, directly. Now I use Hypercam, but the quality is not very good, although I have fast 'puter and raid 0 hdd's. Come on u kewl nerds make this one (I read AVS-grabber or whatever) finally. THNX :p

Antzas AVS

5th January 2002 17:43 UTC

I dont know if this works but allways you can try.

Put AVS into Fullscreen and put a Video Camera input to the Monitor output and record it...i dont know if it works but if it does you can watch AVS from TV...nice

geozop

5th January 2002 18:03 UTC

more trouble than it's worth?
With the output to TV, you could record to a VHS tape. Hopefully your vid card has an input, because you can input from the tape/VHS. Then encode it on the hard drive to AVI.

BlurPak2k1

6th January 2002 00:21 UTC

or instead of vhs reccord it to dvd, then dvd rip it to avi or mpeg

UnConeD

6th January 2002 04:20 UTC

Working on it
I'm working on AVSGrabber... it's an APE that you can insert on an arbitrary point in an AVS to grab the image to an .avi file. You can select any codec you have installed, but it's better to grab it uncompressed first and encode it later (so you don't slow down AVS while grabbing).

It's almost finished, except the uncompressed data output is broken: it outputs 16-color quality images. Will try fixing it tomorrow.

Sneak-preview: avsgrabber.jpg

PS: Programmers (no-one for that matter) appreciate being called nerds :p

surf rat

7th January 2002 23:23 UTC

cool beans!
UnConeD that looks very fresh uncompressed on that jpeg.
Please keep us posted....thanks.

greatWho

8th January 2002 16:01 UTC

good work
looks good. will it also record the sound?

ZeroZero

9th January 2002 10:50 UTC

UnConeD, :cool: u RULE :cool: I almost cannot wait for it, it will be a small revolution! A very handy tool for video editors..

Ziet er goed uit!

times2

9th January 2002 16:33 UTC

HI UnconeD

I'm working on this too, how far are you from completion?
Will post when finished...

UnConeD

9th January 2002 17:44 UTC

Pretty much done
There are 2 issues I still have:

- Uncompressed video comes out as 16-color video.

- Sometimes it fails to overwrite on an existing file you just recorded.

Other than that it's pretty much done.

Angry Weasel

10th January 2002 17:48 UTC

Will compressing it to DivX slow it down much? Can we see it yet?

times2

11th January 2002 14:52 UTC

avs saver
Hi UNconeD

I've started getting your 16 colour effect as well!

It actually is nothing to do with the file, its just the way windows displays it-- i think there must be a wrong entry in the BITMAPINFOHEADER. it doesn't even show up on all machines. in any case if you view the avi in an editing package like virtualdub it looks perfect./

Anyway if any of you want to sneak a preview of my saver plugin you can grab it here:

http://www.dmc.dit.ie/pixelcorps/saver.ape

it crashes when finishing a save on some machines.

I'd love to hear from you if you do try it (anyone)-

I'd love to know if it works, what framerate you can get and the details of your machine- OS, directX/WMP version, amount of RAM etc.

I'm not going to release it fully until i figure out the header and crashing issues.

;) TIM

ps do you have any ideas for how to do the sound recording thing? I think if one looks in the winamp SDK it will involve writing another plugin that shunts the audio to AVS.... which will probably hit performance badly. for now i'm gonna be filming the music/visuals together onto a camcorder, as a reference for syncing afterwards.

Montana

11th January 2002 19:31 UTC

times2 >> go back and work on that saver coz it makes the avs slow when running music and it don't get any good quality either

times2

12th January 2002 12:24 UTC

??
hey montana -- 2 things

1) of couse its gonna slow down avs- what do you expect, magic?

2) if you bothered to read the mail you'd realise that the poor quality comes from windows media player not playing it back properly.

and as for going back to try again- who do you think you are!?

t

Montana

12th January 2002 12:27 UTC

who the fuck i am? i'm a muthafucker who was trying to help you, when playing a song and running your saver the song and the avs suddenly slows down, thats what i mean by work on yo shit

ParaNoya

12th January 2002 15:48 UTC

Doesn't work with me :(
I've just tested this APE but the AVI file it creates doesn't look like my preset at all I've attached an example of it with this msg. (rename it to .avi) This is what I get to see when I try to play the file. I run use Win ME on a P-III 450 mhz, 256 MB RAM, 32 MB Viper V770. If there's any more you'd like to know just let me hear it good luck with this APE. :)

/EDIT
hmmm the attaching here at winamp isn't working as it should if you give me your email I'll send it to you

ZeroZero

12th January 2002 17:17 UTC

hey Times2

great! finally a tool for writing avs to disk

my experience :

- works, but winamp2.78 on windows xp (with asus geforce2 gts) crashes after stop recording, very annoying
- it seems that pixel quality depends on how large u make the window
- 16 colors could be, but I am little color blind, so I am not sure. I use nicemc plugin in winamp to play moviez

keep on the great work!
:up:

BlurPak2k1

13th January 2002 00:42 UTC

so lemme get this stright this this app we can create our own ape's or avi's to use in avs normaly like a effects list but! we cant edit that there we'd have to reopen that ape in normal a normal avs to change the disired effect?

ZeroZero

13th January 2002 12:00 UTC

Times,

the files that are produced are also not good, I get a lot of crashes when trying to open them. Some I can see. None will open in premiere..

Angry Weasel

13th January 2002 13:21 UTC

BP2k1: No. It saves the avs to an .avi video file, not an APE! It is an APE that you just insert into a preset to start recording.

Angry Weasel

13th January 2002 13:24 UTC

Oh yeah and Montana38: Yes. It will slow AVS down. Nothing you can do about it so just shut up. The bad quality comes from Windows Media Player not playing it right. View it in VirtualDub instead.

times2

13th January 2002 15:11 UTC

montana: well i suggest you stop using your mommmas old 386 and buy a real computer! as for help: what help?

UNconeD: any ideas on the 16 colour problem?? i've tried chnaging to BITMAPV$HEADER or BITMAPINFO, theres something that my program isn't writing correctly....> no real information in the platform SDK but if i open a 'funny file' in virtualdub and save it, it grows by a few hundered bytes, and works perfectly. i think it could be to do with the colour tables?

perplexd

t

Montana

13th January 2002 17:55 UTC

montana: well i suggest you stop using your mommmas old 386 and buy a real computer! as for help: what help?

UnConeD

13th January 2002 20:52 UTC

AVSGrabber
I've finished up my version of an AVS2AVI APE... AVSGrabber.

Known bugs:
- The 'uncompressed = 16 colors'-bug.
- Overwriting can sometimes fail if the file is in use.

It's got a few more features than saver.ape, but you should try both.

It's unsupported software: it shouldn't do any harm, but if it kills your mother by shooting a bolt of electricity through the screen, down the stairs, across the living room and into the kitchen, I won't be held responsable :). If you can't get it to work, tough. If you want to send in a bug report, please do, but only with enough information (system description, software used and try to pinpoint the how's and when's of the bug).

It will, of course, slow down AVS a bit. That's because it has to convert and flip the 32-bit AVS data into 24-bit data before most codecs will accept it. I've found a way to avoid this, but then it'll only work on uncompressed output. Might consider implementing this later.

Get it from: http://avs.acko.net/


Note to Montana38: Don't say something is crap until you can do better. You probably have *no* idea what's going on when that AVI saver is doing things, but I can assure you it's not sitting idly having a cup of coffee. That's why it slows AVS down. By the way, you should try writing correct english sentences, not using stupid abbreviations (u ?) and using punctuation marks. It lessens the 10-year-old look.

UnConeD

13th January 2002 21:01 UTC

Sound recording
Sound recording should be *very* tricky. I can see a few problems:

- You can't grab the audio data through AVS (because it's just provided as a visualisation means rather than an exact signal). A DSP might work, but you have to take things like processing delays into account. Getting the audio over to the AVS would be problem too.

- AVS doesn't maintain a constant framerate... synching sound to the images will almost never work completely.


Here's a solution that might be worth something:

- Create both an AVS Grabber (ape) and a sound grabber (DSP or maybe output plug-in).
- Make sure they start and stop at exactly the same time using a synching mechanism.
- Use an editing program to multiplex the audio and video stream.

Montana

14th January 2002 10:56 UTC

(i'm not alowed 2 curse anymore unlesse i wanna get banned so)
msg 2 unconed: *beep* *beep* *beep* *beep* *beep* *beep* *beep*

you get the picture

times2

14th January 2002 13:06 UTC

AVI output beta 2
Hi all, if you're interested I've beta 2 of MY output plugin ready for download ;)

Major bugfixes, it also fixes the 16-colour problem (UNconeD: its a question of filling in all of the BITMAPINFOHEADER fields), and a bit of performance enhancement.

Theres also a RAW mode which basically rips the AVS screen buffer as fast as possible, but as far as i can tell, only windows media player can understand it. (UnconeD: I presume this is what you have in mind for 32-bit files: great minds think alike?)

As before you can download it from:

http://www.dmc.dit.ie/pixelcorps/saver.ape

UnconeD: As for the sound issue, as you say it might be possible to create a soundtrack from the vis data (it would be very low quiality). but for my purposes (using AVS to create effects for music videos) I'm quite happy to put in an effect that will let me recognise the start of the song and then just sync it up in premiere or digital fusion.

times2

14th January 2002 13:22 UTC

offer
UnconeD: 1 more thing, have you made any more apes? i'll show you mine if you show me yours...

t

UnConeD

14th January 2002 18:59 UTC

No other APE's
I haven't made any decent other APE's than AVSGrabber. First I tried making a 5x5 convolution matrix effect (like a custom filter, it allows you to define the color of a pixel in relation to itself and the 5x5 surrounding grid). Unfortunately it was very slow (I wrote it in assembly though) and slightly buggy. I simplified this to an Embossing filter which was still slow, but a bit faster. Never released either of them though, because they weren't near good.

As far as the '32-bit' mode is concerned, I currently have a set of compiler-conditions that allows me to change the APE into two things:
- The AVS buffer is flipped vertically and converted from 32-bit to 24-bit. Almost any codec will accept this format.

- The AVS buffer is just kept the way it is (top-down and 32-bit). The only codec I think worked was uncompressed, and maybe DivX, not sure.

I wanted to ask you if you used assembly and/or MMX in your APE's. I used regular x86 assembly (no MMX) here and there to speed things up, but nothing substantial really. You need to use MMX however to do fast operations on pixels, so that's why I still haven't released any custom filters yet (don't know MMX, if you have a good resource about it, please forward it). I don't have the code for my ape's here though (at univ atm), so I can't 'show you mine' :P.

On to the issue of sound. I don't know how AVS works, but I do know how regular vis plug-ins work: WinAMP calls a function of the plug-in, equivalent to the render() method of an APE, every 'tick'. The traditional way of programming a plug-in was to draw everything on this 'tick'. Unfortunately this made the plug-in stop when you were inside a modal dialog or when music had stopped. The fact that AVS doesn't do this, means it has a separate drawing thread. Probably, with every tick, the internal sound data gets updated with the new version. However because the drawing of frames is independent, you have no sure way of knowing that no frames of sound have been dropped. If you were to put all the sound-data together, you'd most probably end up with a cut-up piece of music (unless you have a near-empty AVS preset, so that every frame of music is actually used).

Note #2 to Montana: do you also insult people in public you don't know and call whatever they do crap? Gee, you'll get really far with that attitude. Please grow up and try to post only comments that will be interesting to *other* people than yourself.

times2

15th January 2002 09:32 UTC

UNconeD: no i dont use assembly... i don't think in this case it would make much difference as the main use of CPU is on the call to the vfw32 api. i've written the packing loop pretty efficiently i think.

if i compare RAW (32-bit) mode with 24-bit mode in my plugin, i estimate raw mode is around 20-30% faster. but raw mode is just making the API call and doing very little else! so i estimate the cost of packing every pixel in the frame using c++ at 15-25% of the cost of transferring a frame with the api. and an assembly program could only hope to approach this improvement... unless i start rewriting vfw32.lib in assembly!!!

hey i'm tired of conversing through this really slow site. can you mail me at pixelcorps@forwind.net if you want to continue this (interesting) discussion...

EL-VIS2

15th January 2002 12:45 UTC

This is amazing!!!

Tested versions of unconed and times2.

Unconed:
As you stated there's the 16-color-problem with the uncompressed mode. Compressed modes work fine but too slow since I need a higher-res to use it in my video-works. Nonetheless I might speed it up later in my video-software.

times2:
Uncompressed works perfect and fast enough. I do full vhs-video-res with pixeldoubling. I'm working with FAST-DV and Adobe-Premiere and the imported AVS-avis look sooo cool when blending them together with other video-tracks. Only bug to mention is a one-pixel-border at the bottom of the avi but this could be easily cut off in Premiere.

Thank you both for this great work. Waited for such a thing a long time. Up to now I played out the Fullscreen-AVS to VHS-tape via an external VGA-TV-Converter and then recorded it to my DV-camcorder and then used my Fast-DV to get it back on PC. Quality was very good but it is a lot of work.

times2

15th January 2002 14:12 UTC

thanks elvis...

yeah i get that 1-pixel border too, do you get it with unconed's plugin?

weird one that.

what kind of vids are u making..?

that computer>>vhs>>dv>>computer stuff is a pain, i tried stuff like that before and found the quality was never acceptable... it kinda goes fuzzy and also you get horizontal banding from lack of frame sync....

UnConeD

15th January 2002 17:25 UTC

AVSGrabber 1.1
I released a new version of AVSGrabber.

Bugfixes:
- The ugly 16-color-bug is now gone.
- The browse button would sometimes fail to work if you had already entered a filename.
- The status-field now works

New:
- Added a 'raw' mode that rips ultra-fast. The slowdown is reduced to an absolute minimum, but the resulting AVI might not be compatible with every program.

Get it from http://avs.acko.net/
Feedback is always welcome, either on this forum, the acko forum or by email.

EL-VIS2

15th January 2002 19:17 UTC

Now tested both grabbers (not the latest version of unconed) together with adobe-premiere:

- It seems that pixeldoubling makes no sense since the grabbed AVI seems to have always the "original" res. Good results for video I got from a 400x300pix-window which is speedy enough on my system.

- Some codecs/framerates worked not with premiere resulting in stocking or no playback at all or strange behaviour of the clip.

- times2 grabber works allright with 25fps but drops a lot of frames and has got this pixels at the bottom of the avi. Also the uncompressed filesizes are giant. Reducing the framerate to avoid dropped frames worked not allright with premiere (strange behaviour) but perhaps I've got to change some settings on the clip in premiere to fix this.

- Best results I got from unconeds grabber with Intel Indeo 3.2 codec at 25fps. Filesizes are cool, speed and quality were allright and the clip worked perfect with premiere. So I think this will be my fav so far.

Montana

15th January 2002 19:28 UTC

unconed>> thanks for improving your grabber
now i can rip to DivX in 30 fps
and it doen't slowdown so much

ZeroZero

15th January 2002 22:34 UTC

thnx TIMES
Thnx Times

I needed this tool very much, I dreamed about, and u were the first, although buggy. I used ur version 1 in a VJ production which I gonna show friday night. I put together some real kick ass video in premiere (very buggy under XP..) as intro for a theaterfestival. I used avi's and bmp's in avs and I could export on 512 x 384 on most vizs. (amd 1200 512mb raid 0 geforce gts2) I also took ur advice and used Virtual Dub (kewl app!) with wich I converted the buggy avi's to usable avi's. Also respect to UnConeD who also makes great presets.

Greetings
Kojak, Netherlands :D

napolean

16th January 2002 19:03 UTC

VERY GOOD !!
It will be Outstanding !!!!!!
Cant wait for the final release

times2

18th January 2002 18:59 UTC

a release
OK I've made a minor bugfix to my saver .ape

It now no longer corrupts the bottom line (stupid oversight!)

And theres a couple of tiny performance enhancements.

I'm calling this version 1.0-

http://www.dmc.dit.ie/pixelcorps/saver.ape

enjoy!

T

Senencito

21st January 2002 02:33 UTC

ok i really do hate to ask this, but i am a newbie at this, how do i get this ape to work, i really have tried searching, but i have not found anything, please help

Yathosho

23rd January 2002 01:27 UTC

very cool unconed!

got any suggestion how to sync the avi with the mp3 (in VirtualDub for instance)? would be cool to have a divx with visuals and audio!

UnConeD

23rd January 2002 02:46 UTC

I've been thinking about coupling it with a DSP plug-in that captures synchronised audio. Haven't tried anything yet, but I'm going to do some more APE-stuff once I'm finished with my current exams :P

chiggerlazer

23rd January 2002 08:02 UTC

OK, weird idea. I only thought of this because Windows Media Encoder does the same thing. If APE's can make calls to any arbitrary DLL, then this will work.

As soon as you start reading frames with the APE, have it start a process in a DLL that captures the audio via the soundcard WaveIn feature. This is analog and probably sounds like a cheap fix, but the advantage is that you could capture anything Winamp is playing if the correct recording source is selected (CD, WAV, MP3, MIDI...)

The only problem here is latency involving WaveIn and the fact that the frame grabber will have to somehow get the recorded audio from the DLL once it becomes available. Sounds like fun (you know, the kind of fun that usually happens after the frustration part).

Another neat feature this could add is the use of ACM's to encode and compress audio data, or leave it PCM.

times2

23rd January 2002 09:24 UTC

apes, syncing
.ape files go in the avs folder.

syncing avis to music, i've had success here by putting in an effect that visibly reacts to sound- for instance a 'simple' oscilloscope- which will make a discernable pattern the instant you press 'play'. you then have a visible marker to place the beginning of your sound track to in premiere. (don't think virtualdub can do this). of course you may not want this effect at the beginning of your sequence. so you can either blank the beginning of the output movie (and turn off the osc as fast as possible) or else make up a version of your soundtrack with a dummy section at the BEGINNING.

t

UnConeD

23rd January 2002 11:51 UTC

WaveIn
Not all soundcards supports recording of its own output. Not to mention that's it's pretty silly to have it go through the card first. A DSP plugin provides you with first-class access, plus it integrates with Winamp. It's probably the best solution.

Yathosho

25th January 2002 10:34 UTC

unconed: is realtime rendering required? for an avi of avs with sound it wouldn't required to run in realtime i think, question is, if that's possible on the technical side.

btw: i'm yathosho (http://yathosho.deviantart.com)

yodhe

25th January 2002 15:22 UTC

Thanx UnConeD and Times2

I was sitting here, just wondering over the last few days how to do that avs-avi thingy and lo and behold two wonderful fluffy people up with a similar solution (I am reminded here of the Theory of Evolution and menes!!!), THANKYOU.
Basically I wanted it, as I use my own 3D animations through the avs as a live filter beat match unit/channel. But now I can grab these and slap them back onto the 3D objects, rerender the animations, put them back through the avs, and hey presto, even more fractal psychedelic imagery to help bend peoples heads at parties. Cheers again folks, and respect.
On a side I have had a few problems with playback speeds using avi's in the avs, and wondered if anyone else had any problems. I can get a reasonable frame rate with 320*240 stuff, which is alright for TV, but as I am starting to use data projectors at gigs (yes I am a VJ-sic sic sic) I wanted to take advantage of the higher resolution capacity. I have found even with 1+ Ghz computers with all the add-ons such as Matrox cards 512 ram and stuff, with any avi's higher than this (such as 640*480) the frame rate drops to an unacceptable level-5/6fps. Normally I need 15-20fps, similar to TV, as this is the "speed" at which it becomes possible to "fool" one's visual cortex, and also insert additional subliminal content. Has anyone had any greater success at finding perhaps the right combination? Or do I have to write an new avi player APE.
Lots of love, light, levity and a little liminality

P.s. I also am doing Free Video CD of my work, check out www.TranceVisuals.com if you are interested, and send me an email and I will post one out to you.

UnConeD

25th January 2002 19:42 UTC

The basic reply is "It's AVS, AVS is slow, deal with it." :).

If you search around the forum, you'll find numerous questions from people with shiny new systems wondering why AVS won't perform better on their system.

Because it's 100% CPU based *and* performs way more complex stuff than your average 3D card, you won't get any resolution close to what most people expect these days. Nothing to do about it, other than learn how to simplify and optimize presets, so you squeeze out the most FPS.

Perhaps upscaling a 400x300 picture can still lead to acceptable results?

Player 1

28th January 2002 13:25 UTC

Have you tried using the Disk Writer Output plugin?

UnConeD: I would like to put an image into avs and stretch it to a shape shown below.

***______
*.'***********'.
¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯

The reason I ask this is because I want to make an avs prest that looks like Super Mario Kart which was on the snes.

UnConeD

28th January 2002 19:55 UTC

Diskwriter outputs as fast as it can, so you'd never get a synchronised audio-track. Plus I'm thinking about something that's easier to use and synchronises with my AVSGrabber automatically.
I will try this in a week or two, but not now due to lack of time. Maybe times2 can try it with his.

As far as your mario-kart thing is concerned, I doubt it'll work. The image is way too large and rendering it in AVS will reduce the resolution a lot. And if you want to do a convincing mario kart effect, you'll have to make a 3D planar projection along with a camera that follows and aligns itself to the track. Not so easy.

Montana

29th January 2002 09:05 UTC

why does evry1 want visuals+sound, i just use the grabber 2 preview some shit and if i want sound to it i use a app i have.

times2

29th January 2002 09:42 UTC

sound
montana: still coming across like a 12 year old!

the reason I want to record sound is to be able to make a record of sound-reacting visuals. if I was to put some arbitrary sound on, the visuals wouldn't be reacting with the sound, would they? or what do you use AVS for? looking at your mommas holiday snaps?

unconeD: I have been doing some experiments with both grabbers, would I be correct in saying that your plugin writes consecutive frames to the avi file without considering when they were grabbed? or how does your 'sync with avs' feature work? I've found that my plugin syncs better when the music is dubbed back on.

I think to make an automatic grab-the-sound-as-well system, There needs to be a custom WINAMP plugin which is in communication with the .ape program. The problem is, what kind of plugin? If its an output plugin, I think you won't be able to hear the sound unless it also handles that itself..? Unless another class of plugin (general purpose?) can get access to the sound data?

I know external programs can communicate with apes (as PPs visfrac does this) but I don't know how to go about this. And I won't have time to look into it for another week or so...

For now I'm happy with the results I'm getting by putting in an effect that allows me to easily identify when the sound started and then dub it on afterwards.

BTW: another tip for anyone who's doing this. If you're recording typical quarter-screen AVS movies (say 320x240 or 352x288) and then blowing them up for output to fullscreen video (either in software usinf virtualdub etc OR in hardware using your graphics cards fullscreen overlay) they look A LOT better if you save them uncompressed when small, and blow them up BEFORE compressing them with indeo, mpeg or divX etc. This is because compressed files store pixel data in YUV411, YUV420 or similar formats, effectively meaning that the resolution of the colour information is HALVED or QUARTERED. So you're better off blowing up first, otherwise the colour signal of your movie is effectively only 160x120 or less and you get very blurry edges on high-contrast coloured shapes.

BTW another tip: mpeg4 v3 is by far the best quality codec in a given amount of data, that i've seen.

PS UnconeD: hows the exams going?

T

Montana

29th January 2002 10:01 UTC

times2: u call me a 12-year old, what's up with that?

i grab the visual (while reacting 2 music)
and then i add the song on the avi with a little app i have

UnConeD

29th January 2002 18:02 UTC

(offtopic)
Montana:
Hate to make this personal, but in another thread (AVS vs. Milkdrop) you found it necessary to talk about '3D shit' and 'u MD'ers' as well.
Writing texts like that makes you look like a 12-year old.

Most people who want to have an interesting discussion take the time to write out full sentences with correct grammar. And not 'talk shit lik dis 2 so they soundz wayy l33t'. It's got nothing to do with being snobby, but just simple communication skills. No-one is forcing you to change your typing habits, but don't complain if it affects someone else's view on you.

Not to mention the fact that your two last posts to this thread said exactly the same, aside from the comment on times2 observation. He also didn't say you were a 12-year old, he said you came across as a 12-year old.
(/offtopic)


Now on to the actual useful discussion. AVSGrabber doesn't drop frames... how exactly does your grabber achieve this? Does it have a separate AVI saving thread that runs alongside render() and just fetches the current data when it's done with an old frame? I didn't really bother since the AVI saver slows down your PC in general, so AVS as well. Does it make a difference?

As far as 'Sync with AVS' is considered, I thought the UI was pretty clear on that though: It only applies to the playback rate (FPS)... if it's checked, the FPS will automatically be synchronized with AVS so you don't have to enter it manually.

Montana

29th January 2002 20:20 UTC

[offtopic]
i'm sick & tired of y'all dissin' my way of typing, i wite like this all the time, i can write in perfect sentences but i only do that in my english class (i got a A+ in english). ok i use a lot of of profanity, but hey, that's me, ignore me if you don't like me

i am 18 not 12 in any sence,
i say it in english to you for the last time.
do i make my point clear?
[/offtopic]

times2

30th January 2002 15:48 UTC

so montana: what part of harlem are you from, anyway?

seriously though. i'd be interested to know how well your 'previewed shit' syncs with the sound you've dubbed with the 'app i have'. because as far as i can tell, it couldn't.

unconed: the way i'm saving the avi is, first i check if avs is onto a new frame (based on the framerate chosen). then i'm saving the new frame with the framenumber based on when it was grabbed, not just consecutively. so the frame displays at the right time, although its possible to drop frames if you choose too high a rate (which is how it should be)...

T

UnConeD

30th January 2002 21:33 UTC

(different discussion)
Montana: Oh come on... typing kewlz language that y'all be dissin' cos yer 2 kewl has got to be harder than typing normally. Why not prove you have more language skills than a peanut and type like everyone else? Do you think that writing like that will make hollow comments and useless posts sound any more interesting? Of course, dropping the act would prove my point, and we'd all have a good laugh at your expense. Again, you don't have to change, as long as you'll just accept our comments on your rediculous language use, which you don't. You're acting like a 12-year old :)
PS: Want to guess *my* age?
(/different discussion)

unconed: the way i'm saving the avi is, first i check if avs is onto a new frame (based on the framerate chosen). then i'm saving the new frame with the framenumber based on when it was grabbed, not just consecutively. so the frame displays at the right time, although its possible to drop frames if you choose too high a rate (which is how it should be)...

Montana

30th January 2002 22:11 UTC

times2: for crying out loud do this:
first take a cool preset,
grab the preset to avi (while music playing),
then take a song and convert it 2 wav and
use virtualdub and add the wavfile on the video,
that's simple.

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Montana38 aka Antanios Masud aka Tony Montana aka Superugly
is born & raised in Sodertalje, Sweden
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sub1zero

30th January 2002 22:19 UTC

Re: AVS to AVI , PLEASE MAKE THIS HAPPEN FINALLY

Originally posted by ZeroZero
Me2 wanna record AVS to AVI, directly. Now I use Hypercam, but the quality is not very good, although I have fast 'puter and raid 0 hdd's. Come on u kewl nerds make this one (I read AVS-grabber or whatever) finally. THNX :p

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UnConeD

31st January 2002 00:57 UTC

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