My life's purpose in an .avs file

skryingbreath

9th May 2006 05:35 UTC

My life's purpose in an .avs file
All my life I've not known what I was put on this earth for. Until now, I knew not that it was for AVS.

Tuggummi

9th May 2006 09:10 UTC

Skry made AVS?! ZOMG ZUMPING ZEESUZ!

But, this preset is crap.

But the fact you made AVS is AWESOME! :up:

And as tupac says it: GGn00b.

JaVS_v2.5

9th May 2006 09:32 UTC

g00d spirit, skry! w00t.. not bad though :)

and... r... yeah, nice background!

But the fact you made AVS is AWESOME! :up:

Tuggummi

9th May 2006 19:40 UTC

Whoa, the fact you mimic me is AWESOME! (not) :down:

skryingbreath

9th May 2006 19:48 UTC

:blah:

I shall be spreading my seed all over avs :P

skryingbreath

9th May 2006 19:50 UTC

/shit

Doggy Dog

9th May 2006 22:13 UTC

As long as you wipe your monitor after that, there should be no problems :p

Always nice to see a skinner turn AVSer. There aren't many of us around. Heck, I can think of only 5 other people who did/do both with some degree of success.

The preset is crap indeed. No preset ever should flash annoyingly.

fastingaciu

9th May 2006 22:17 UTC

Originally posted by skryingbreath
/shiiitttttttt

He's here. RUNNNNNNNN.

Just joking. Good to have you around.

skryingbreath

9th May 2006 23:50 UTC

Haha, good times.

Actually it was pretty fun making that. I might *try* on a preset one of these days, who knows!

ASD5A

10th May 2006 18:49 UTC

PAK-9 might be embarassed..

he cant say "outsider" to you anymore

skryingbreath

10th May 2006 19:50 UTC

Ah yes, and when does the ancient initiation ritual start?

Tuggummi

10th May 2006 19:52 UTC

Just as long as you agree that water + rotoblitter + 16 colored simple oscilliscope render != SUPER AWESOME DISCO PARTY!!!

if you're not familiar with programming != means "is not" or "does not equal"

mikm

10th May 2006 23:38 UTC

Yeah. Didn't the disco party usually have moving particles and an invert?

Tuggummi

10th May 2006 23:40 UTC

No, that's seizure party, a whole different story.

Nanakiwurkz

14th May 2006 01:33 UTC

example
example of a crappy flashing preset would be my test preset in NanakiwurkzV3 heh thought it sucked to but i was learning then. keep it up you'll eventualy learn the code.
-_-' damn that sounded stupid. great now i'm reviewing and rating my own presets again. *slaps crap out of self for breaking vow to not rate his presets again* oww :cry:

naz_inferno

14th May 2006 06:58 UTC

Originally posted by Tuggummi
Just as long as you agree that water + rotoblitter + 16 colored simple oscilliscope render != SUPER AWESOME DISCO PARTY!!!

should added some render/onbeat clear.. for some techno light!! :D

JaVS_v2.5

14th May 2006 09:40 UTC

render/dot grid is cool! :up:

shreyas_potnis

15th May 2006 18:32 UTC

dont forget to add an invert in the end! Flllashy

mike-db

4th January 2007 23:19 UTC

Nice, I remember when I tried my firs AVS sets... They sucked balls.

S-uper_T-oast

4th January 2007 23:50 UTC

rofls:blah:

heath28m

5th January 2007 01:29 UTC

mannn..

You know what I got tired of..was Kaleidoscope..there were a few that were like okay.. but there was so many...i felt like I was stuck in WMP with Alchemy...A few special ones made it into the Compilation I made though..

Oh and I thought seizure party was 60 FPS ???:igor:

heath28m

5th January 2007 01:41 UTC

I can say this though...the little dots need to go..It looks like a good star and idea but maybe with a little more design and working on the actual responsiveness..

I ran it through Drum and Bass, Techno, and Breakbeat..

It seems to have a definite beat pattern though the pattern does not start until the frequency does.. but then it doesn't keep up...

But i like the background for the fact that it could actually be used like the idea of a screen projection on several screen like at an event with the main stage in your face...

Good idea but needs more work, many changing up the "stars of the show"

and getting rid of the oscilliscope and the ring or coding it into the movement of "the stars" woudl be a good thing..there one similar to this one which is more reactive .. I have no idea which one but it uses circles i the background with dancing squares which enlarge and shrink with the music.. quite rapidly and they even change the method like a switchback...

anyways. BLAH B:LAH BLAH

skryingbreath

5th January 2007 02:50 UTC

:igor:

heath28m

5th January 2007 03:06 UTC

aww ..now see NOOO...put your eye back in don't look at me like that..AT LEAST YOU MADE ONE!!!

Still a good job though..lets put it this way.. I did not see this visual lock up, not even once.. or shoot CPU up to a point of performing a memory dump....and it did not just sit there like...a wet tongue waving in the wind either..

skryingbreath

5th January 2007 03:13 UTC

A wet Tugg' waving in the air, you say?

heath28m

5th January 2007 03:45 UTC

LOL..ya know like the ones that just lay there...like a dead fish with a momentary spasm..

I should make one just like that too..call it "CRACK-FISH"

jheriko

5th January 2007 12:17 UTC

Originally posted by heath28m
aww ..now see NOOO...put your eye back in don't look at me like that..AT LEAST YOU MADE ONE!!!

Still a good job though..lets put it this way.. I did not see this visual lock up, not even once.. or shoot CPU up to a point of performing a memory dump....and it did not just sit there like...a wet tongue waving in the wind either..

Avoid GVM model presets, you will hate them if these are your criteria. :)

PAK-9

5th January 2007 12:44 UTC

I have noticed from several of heath28m's posts that he seems to be under the misconception that AVS artists are somehow directly responsible for AVS crashes.

AVS artists dont cause AVS crashes
AVS being a flakey p.o.s. causes AVS crashes

heath28m

5th January 2007 13:39 UTC

Well going on the idea that most users buy their pc in the package and A seven year old system that was top of the line at the time is what I was referring too..and I never had one actually crash a system .. but upon lock-up the minidump process was preparing..

Nor was I referring to all presets that do not work .. are the sole responsibility of the artist themselves not the presets..

there are settings that can be adjusted to make them able to be run correctly..

I currently with my new and old systems have to turn all of the definition down and then use pixel doubling to keep the CPU down..

But I am the average user.. not an individual who has been blessed with the ability to provide themselves with Dual 3 GB processors with 2 GB of ram..

But truthfully this was starting out as a compliment that is that the first Visual he made wasn't a complete borderline viral pile of shit..and definitely not a waste of time and worth mine to give him honest feedback.. in hopes that it can still be worked on..its not a loss..

.

and BY tHe waY.. enjoy my latest Compilation in the AVS thread..

Love the Avatar PAK 9

heath28m

5th January 2007 14:07 UTC

BIG BIGGGG Grid-iron trout

jheriko

5th January 2007 14:12 UTC

Originally posted by heath28m
Well going on the idea that most users buy their pc in the package and A seven year old system that was top of the line at the time is what I was referring too..and I never had one actually crash a system .. but upon lock-up the minidump process was preparing..

You have unnatural luck. Ask anyone and collect some data, then you will have evidence that contradicts your supposition.

Never forget:

One counterexample = disproof
N examples = nothing

In most cases even an infinite number of examples means nothing (problems can be continuous).

What is likely happening is that you are mostly restricting yourself to "no code" components, and since evallib is the source of a great many of the crashes (especially during code editing when it is continuously compiling) you have a reduced probablity of crash. Unfortunately evallib code is needed for non-trivial presets, so we have the choice of /increased/ stability, or simple and boring (for us to make at least...) presets.

Presets are /not/ the cause. There are no facilities in AVS that /should/ let you make it crash, if that were the case then I would agree with you that it is the preset authors fault. Since you can use AVS well within the constraints of "what it is supposed to do", and have it still crash, it is AVS fault.

Also you made the suggestion that few, if any, AVS artists consider what the target system is. This is a major consideration for everyone. If you had some rough conception of the sort of things that we manage in AVS presets you would probably amazed that they run at the framerates they do...

I draw the line at 10fps on my system in a particular window size (~500x400). I do this because presets which I made before on a 400Mhz machine run at that framerate on my 3Ghz machine in that window size. This works out reasonably well. The only time I have broken this with recently was with Starfighter Redux, which struggles to get ~9.5fps in that window. Don't forget though that preset features the highest polygon model seen in AVS, with more processing per triangle then any model I have seen in AVS (PAK may have done something with more lights somewhere... I can't remember exactly).

I will accept that this is probably unacceptable for the casual viewer... but for my target audience its fine.

heath28m

5th January 2007 14:41 UTC

well its slow I almost embarassed to post it.

and its an Athlon..1.6GHz 512 ram... ( I wish I had a settings file I could show you for mine ) But i run Full screen 400 x 300 80% pixel doubling highest Framerate..windowed i run pixel doubling..with almost the highest framerate..

When I am not fullscreen i have to minimize the window because the larger i make it the worse the usage gets..

So if I am browsing doing downloads with Firefox, and waiting for hours.. for it to finish.. and i use Winamp with Vis.. it really uses it.. but if I switch to fullscreen leaving the task manager open .. the usage drops to almost nothing..

I run my servers too at the same time as I am doing all this..
but they take up like nothing..

beat detection i used advanced with auto keep and restart from scratch

transitions.. i turned completely off at one point..

but I run random and with keep rendering old effect

this is with MX70 15" CRT Windows XP SP2 ( HP Pavilion 360n )

All drivers and stuff up to date.. I run out to two amps with variable settings with two 10" Subs a combination of six mid range and tweets with additional sony Six inch subs.

it bumps and the avs's rock out.. I dont have any issue with it now.. especially after like the past two updates..BUT back in the day..Mannnnn..LOL

I actually have a way to use the laptop with Traktor DJ Studio and Ableton for mixes.. into the amps.. out to the computer and in through winamp using the linein:// in the url thing.. works pretty good.. all I can with the 'limitations' I have LOL..

Was that un-necessary posting.. omg my first really truly un-necessary post..lmao

heath28m

6th January 2007 01:26 UTC

okay I was threatened by a member on these forums via private message.. Stating that in fact if I continue to discuss this issue with anyone I will become an unwanted member of this forum..

will any of you re-read and explain this for this individual who I am going to keep anonymous for his sake..

I even went as far getting a lengthy long ass explanation after trying to give someone a compliment and I am attacked on here and threatened via PM.. what is this a fucking Mafia assembly..has someone been watching the Sapranos too much.. or is it that someone has a chip on their shoulder..

Does this person speak for all of in that the idea here is not to have actual discussions at all..and discussion over the reactions and hardware software performance are not personal attacks on anyone which is made given you have 6th grade and above reading skills..???

I think that mentality would hinder the program ../

It amazes me how everything single thing in this universe that I enjoy my music .. the AVS.. programming and coding all seems to be defiled by this crap from one person or the next..

I can and will pull the compilation pack and get rid of the GOD damn software.. Having things right and understood and within their bounds is a little more important too me than someone walking around like some want to be gangster just waiting and looking for something to take the wrong way.. I don't let people into my life who have that mentality and damn sure don't want this shit on the fucking Internet either..

PERIOD.. no discussion..

You can either take it the right way or if you had rather fight .. and be ignorant and turn shit into shit.. Then I will have the ADMIN delete my posts here Using the Privacy Acts outlines by the United States Government and I will delete and go on my happy fucking way...

PAK-9

6th January 2007 01:50 UTC

Er... I think you need to relax a bit there buddy, if someone is pestering you via pm just ignore them. As for the rest of us we like to flame noobs a bit on the forums but if you ask intellegent questions you will get intellegent answers.

The only thing I would say is that you should try to be as clear and succinct with your English as possible, since English is clearly not your first language and it is sometimes hard to understand and/or easy to misinterpret your posts.

heath28m

6th January 2007 02:25 UTC

Natural born citizen of the US .. Thanks..

read harder.. try not to "FLAME" through the post.. make sure don't miss important phrases like..

I did not mean..and what I meant was.. and they work great.. and back in the day..

You miss alot scimming through a hundred posts..too much

skryingbreath

6th January 2007 03:54 UTC

What the hell happened to this thread? :igor:

mikm

6th January 2007 03:57 UTC

Just because you were born here (in the USA) doesn't mean you automatically have good English :rolleyes:

heath28m

6th January 2007 05:02 UTC

HOW DO I FUCKING DELETE MY GOD DAMN ACCOUNT?

mikm

6th January 2007 05:26 UTC

To delete your account, you must donate to the moderator support fund.

skryingbreath

6th January 2007 05:28 UTC

/system32/, delete all files.

S-uper_T-oast

6th January 2007 07:18 UTC

Originally posted by skryingbreath
/system32/, delete all files.

Warrior of the Light

6th January 2007 14:21 UTC

WTF everybody calm down and think before you post.

Disabling your account? just because you can't get along with somebody? there's an ignore function for a reason youknow..
If you still want to leave, just don't type in forums.winamp.com anymore.

PAK-9

6th January 2007 19:05 UTC

Originally posted by heath28m
Natural born citizen of the US .. Thanks..

oops

Nic01

6th January 2007 21:44 UTC

Originally posted by heath28m
HOW DO I FUCKING DELETE MY GOD DAMN ACCOUNT?

Say that three more times and click your heels.

heath28m

7th January 2007 07:30 UTC

________________

heath28m

7th January 2007 12:51 UTC

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:weird: You know maybe I am the one with the problem..I sit behind the computer too much..everything seems to go in this direction and I make a damn mess out of someone else's thread...:hang: and I am probably pretty sure he did not appreciate it

Its not "me" or anything I wanted to do here, and most definitely not who I try to be either..:rolleyes:

SO Big Apology:(

I probably will be out of here for awhile..seriously..

________________________________________________________

skryingbreath

7th January 2007 21:01 UTC

lol.

mike-db

8th January 2007 08:59 UTC

Weird?

JaVS_v2.5

8th January 2007 09:59 UTC

No new preset, skry?

PAK-9

8th January 2007 13:39 UTC

Originally posted by JaVS_v2.5
No new preset, skry?

Dont get off topic

MaTTFURY

27th January 2007 05:05 UTC

Troll dance!
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skryingbreath

27th January 2007 05:31 UTC

Way to bump this thread with something intellectual stimulating, therefore relevent.