beeferoni

29th March 2005 00:46 UTC

Here are all the APEs...
Lol, I realize most people don't care. But I got a hold of all the APEs that have been used for Winamp. Be warned, a lot of these may crash Winamp, and I understand that none of the old 3D APEs will work in Win XP. But as a historical oddity, if you are interested, reply here and I will zip them up for you. I would do it anyway, but there are a couple of dozen of them and some are quite big.:D

jheriko

29th March 2005 04:29 UTC

3D ape?

/me chokes on the memory of ever using it

[Ishan]

29th March 2005 05:04 UTC

ugh....there have already been many threads like these :confused:
and anyway i guess all of us have the APE's that we need, expect that those "newbies" need them....

beeferoni

29th March 2005 07:47 UTC

Right you are, Ishan. The one thread that lists all of the apes (before this) was very messy an long, full of broken links and defunct sites. I figured This would be a little cleaner, considering nobody is going to be asking for them anyway (much less than from a noob like me). :D

^..^

29th March 2005 09:44 UTC

you're idea is surely generous and well-meant, but i guess a bit unnecessary. Cause as ishan said already the frequent people here have all required ape's. Of course, new people need them, but to be honest how many noobs came here in the past time?

jheriko

29th March 2005 15:20 UTC

Your negative attitudes are all well and good.. but the old page is a pile of poo. It might be better to have a cleaner list. You'll appreciate it when you need to find a lot of apes for whatever reason. (reformat etc...)

beeferoni

29th March 2005 18:03 UTC

Thanks, jheriko. Hm, but I'm thinking maybe I should just go ahead and zip up each APE individually and post them one at a time here. Or should I just go ahead and wait for someone to ask? (And all the time this thread is getting longer and messier...);)

[Ishan]

30th March 2005 10:26 UTC

well if you have to post the thread, the i'll suggest that you get this thread deleted by UCD, start a whole new thread with properly formatted post(s) contaning all the APE's (in zip files individually,coz i think that links can get broken somehow) with a short description of the APE, what it does, its maker and version no.
Then get the thread locked and stickied by UCD again :)

I guess that would be fair enough.

beeferoni

31st March 2005 04:00 UTC

Ok, how about it, UnConeD?

Warrior of the Light

31st March 2005 12:09 UTC

Another thought: What about it if we'd get some (free?) webhost that stores all the .APE's that are no longer being developed to prevent that list from aging?

jheriko

31st March 2005 13:30 UTC

you might want to post a preliminary list here or something so we can tell you which ones you missed too :P

^..^

31st March 2005 13:39 UTC

Is this going to be a complete list of all ape's available? Or just the generally used ones? However it's going to be, shouldn't we point out which ape's are most common?

TomyLobo

31st March 2005 13:43 UTC

we should rule some out, like that stickman ape :P

^..^

31st March 2005 13:56 UTC

yeah, but by which criterions do we decide wether to list an ape up or not?

mysterious_w

31st March 2005 13:57 UTC

I once tried to make an .ape site, went down like a lead ballon here.

TomyLobo

31st March 2005 13:58 UTC

i think we shouldnt list narrow-purpose APEs
also we shouldnt list outdated apes (like setlinewidth, sorry shreyas :))

also we should restrict the number of APEs that dont enhance AVS's capabilities or speed for a particular purpose
that would include these:
RGB Filter: can be done easily with color modifier
Screen Reverse: can be done with movement
Negative Strobe: noone wants crappy strobe effects :P also, this can be easily done with color modifier

^..^

31st March 2005 14:14 UTC

although, it would be interesting to see how many ape's we can collect. ;)
We can still clean up the list afterwards...

beeferoni

31st March 2005 15:58 UTC

Jeez, I should have known that there would be apes I don't have. here's a list of all the ones I've come across I suppose they are pretty common after all. (I never even heard of 'stickman').



3d.ape meatballs3d.ape
AddBorder.ape multifilter.ape
amoeba.ape multiplier.ape
avs_edge.ape NegativeStrobe.ape
avsgrabber.ape pfavs.ape
colormap.ape picture2.ape
convolution.ape player2.ape
conway.ape RGBfilter.ape
flame.ape saver.ape
flock.ape ScreenReverse.ape
fluid.ape slideshow.ape
FramerateLimiter.ape texer.ape
firewurx.ape texer2.ape
ifs.ape triangle.ape
tv.ape
vf.ape
vf2.ape
VfxAviPlayer.ape

Obviously I listed 'narrow purpose' apes and ones already integrated into winamp. I am a newbie, so I don't remember all the apes that may have been around over the last few years. Also obviously, I am going to need help on this. I suggest we all list all the apes we can think of and then a couple of people will have to go back and clean up the list, and then finally any apes that are not actually owned by someone here will have to be searched out, or at least find out for sure if they exist anymore. (I had a bitch of a time finding tv.) Oh, and incidentally, my idea was to collect ALL the apes we can. Yes negative strobe looks crappy and is easily accomplished by other means, so are tv and conway for that matter. I thought the list should be more comprehensive than 'useful'. (I can't even get 'ifs.ape' to apply. It crashes my winamp every single time.)

Warrior of the Light

31st March 2005 16:05 UTC

how about updating the List of wa5 avs files & effects thread with the final list? (and removing those useless posts while a mod's at it)

beeferoni

31st March 2005 16:12 UTC

OOps, forgot a bunch.

buffer.ape
channelshift.ape
colorreduction.ape
delay.ape
eeltrans.ape
meatballs 3d.ape
multifilter.ape
multiplier.ape
NegativeStrobe.ape
normalise.ape
pfavs.ape
picture2.ape
player2.ape
RGB filter.ape
saver.ape
ScreenReverse.ape
slideshow.ape
texer.ape
texer2.ape
triangle.ape
tv.ape
vf.ape
vf2.ape
VfxAviPlayer.ape

Tuggummi

31st March 2005 20:58 UTC

Oh great.... another n000b who has a "goood" idead :rolleyes:

I have an idea... why don't you go...


[size=6=]Fuck Yourself!!![/size]

^..^

31st March 2005 21:10 UTC

erm... tug are you following in atero's footsteps? :confused:

back to topic: what about a decent sorted list? would've been nice if it was arranged alphabetically and one below the other :p
btw you're able to edit a post for 3 hours after you posted it, just click this handy button: http://forums.winamp.com/images/edit.gif

finaly two more apes's:

cls_dynamic.ape Dynamic Clear Screen
vjcontrol.ape VJ Control

beeferoni

31st March 2005 23:02 UTC

Aww, is that nice Tuggummi? I never said it was a 'good' or even a useful idea. I'm running it up the flagpole to see who salutes, that's all. Some people seem to find it an interesting enough idea to be discussing it. I'm sorry you don't feel the same. Gee, I hope everybody doesn't drop out now because the Great Tuggummi thinks it's stupid. :p (Tugg, I am still a fan.) I am the first to admit I'm noob, but I daresay even the best AVSer was once a newbie. Except maybe PAK-9 and UCD.:D

Anyway...Yes, back to the topic at hand. Once I get the ones I missed I will go back and put them in alpha order (I had them that way, but I tried to list them in collums. Obviously it didn't work. Hence the 2 posts.:hang: I always forget about the little edit button, damnit. I will go look for those 2 apes, ^..^ unless you yourself have them?

^..^

31st March 2005 23:08 UTC

yeah, have them right here. just say how you want to receive them...

beeferoni

1st April 2005 02:08 UTC

I suppose you could zip them, unless you would rather send them through a messenger. Or e-mail them. It makes no difference to me. My mail is noahburge2b@yahoo.com, (or noahburge2b for yahoo messenger, or Noahburge2B for AOL messenger. Whatever is easiest for you.

^..^

1st April 2005 10:13 UTC

mail is on the way!

[Ishan]

1st April 2005 16:13 UTC

Whatever happened to the specific AVS site thread that was started quite long ago.......

^..^

1st April 2005 16:22 UTC

never heard of it, but after a quick search i guess it disappeared...
cause if you mean this 'project' then it stopped two years ago and nearly no one is still here!

[Ishan]

1st April 2005 16:37 UTC

yeah i meant that thread.

Nevermind, i guess starting a new thread is a lot more easier and faster than again going into the debates for a whole new AVS site.

beeferoni

1st April 2005 17:48 UTC

Yeah, that thread was a mess. Maybe once this list is compiled someone can start a site.

Thanks for sending those, ^..^ Now does anyone have any apes on their hard drive that arent on this list? I don't want to update it until we have all we can get. I guess we will have to leave out some. A couple of them just aren't available anymore.

^..^

1st April 2005 22:11 UTC

btw who is interested in such a site? i mean who would offer the time to care about it and knows how to make it?

Yathosho

1st April 2005 22:35 UTC

not meatballs again ;)

UnConeD

2nd April 2005 01:08 UTC

You should remove the apes that have been integrated into avs (channel shift, multiplier, colorreduction). The integrated versions don't crash.

beeferoni

2nd April 2005 05:13 UTC

Ok, I will leave the integrateds out. Another quick question. Is RGB filter and Channel shift the same thing?

^..^

2nd April 2005 10:17 UTC

no. rgb filter just disables/enables the red, green or blue channel. Whereas channelshift exchanges the channels among one another.

[Ishan]

2nd April 2005 10:56 UTC

so will you put up individual post with the details of APE's and their zips?

kinncs

2nd April 2005 13:55 UTC

hi all

where are the APEs and the ZIPs...

I want to have them all...

regards,
NCS

^..^

2nd April 2005 14:38 UTC

beeferoni is just about collecting them, you must have a bit more patience ;)

beeferoni

2nd April 2005 16:55 UTC

Yes, I have been sick the last few days, so I haven't been up to much. I will have them up here as soon as I get the descriptions done. I promise within the next few days. :)

beeferoni

2nd April 2005 16:58 UTC

oh, except someone else needs to write a description for 'ifs.ape' because mine will not run at all. It makes my WA curl up in a little ball every time, so I don't even know what it looks like.

hboy

2nd April 2005 16:58 UTC

actually, i only saw successfué packs till now that were successful without any plus apes except the ones that came with WA5. okay, flock (or if you prefer flock off) is a handy thing, but that can be also coded with a tiny superscope.
add borders is instead of a 1-scope solution too ;)

triangle, avstrans automation, global variable manager ape are really useful though.

:rolleyes:

jheriko

2nd April 2005 17:08 UTC

i didnt see globmgr.ape in there :/

get it from http://jheriko.deviantart.com

^..^

2nd April 2005 18:22 UTC

@beeferoni:
[hint]
http://forums.winamp.com/images/edit.gif
[/hint]

beeferoni

2nd April 2005 18:57 UTC

Damn it, I need more help than I thought. Please believe me, I started this, and I will do all of it if possible. But There are some apes I don't understand, and some that are called something different in the AVS editor. Like CLS Dynamic, I don't know what the editor calls it. And AVS grabber, I don't understand this one. It has to do with processing .avi and .avs files (perhaps converting or combining them?) Sorry, I'm a bonehead when it comes to video compression stuff. :(

I will post the list as best as I can, and then UnConeD or someone else qualified can update the descriptions that I couldn't get. (It shouldn't be many):)

Aggh, edit. Why cant I remember? globemgr is there, jheriko. If it isn't listed, I have it, so it will be in the final.

^..^

2nd April 2005 19:21 UTC

- cls_dynamic.ape is called "dynamic clear screen" (as i already said) and can be found among the render objects

- avs grabber is an output effect, which creates *.avi files out of the running preset

beeferoni

2nd April 2005 21:27 UTC

Ok, START LIST:

3D: appears in render apes. projects a 3 demensional image (programmed seprately as .asc files) onto the screen. You can change the color. This is an old effect and nobody uses it much anymore. There is no author name listed in the editor.

beeferoni

2nd April 2005 21:28 UTC

AddBorders: appears in virtual effects. Just like it says. You can change the width and color of the border. More useful than it sounds. made by Goebish.

beeferoni

2nd April 2005 21:30 UTC

amoeba3d a.k.a. Tentacles3d: appears in render objects. Projects a 6 tentacled mass that spins around. You can change the color(s), and whether the color changes on beat. Can make for some nice presets, but probably used too much. Made by Steven Wittens (UnConeD).

beeferoni

2nd April 2005 21:31 UTC

Edge Detect: This will define an edge on a render object, the same color as the object. You can change how the color is blended; replace, additive, 50/50, or the default blend. Made by Tom Paton.

^..^

2nd April 2005 21:32 UTC

erm... are you serious that you want to post every single ape now?

beeferoni

2nd April 2005 21:33 UTC

AVSGrabber: avs grabber is an output effect, which creates *.avi files out of the running preset Made by Steven Wittens.

beeferoni

2nd April 2005 21:34 UTC

Should I not yet? How else would we do it? the list will have to be cleaned up still, but I have no idea how we go about it.

See, these descriptions are a nightmare. I just have know way of obtaining some of the information . I was hoping someone else could just sort of 'fill in the blanks'.

BTW, I see the downside of non-integrated apes now. I NEVER want to see another ape. :D

^..^

2nd April 2005 21:38 UTC

I'd suggest just to post ONE zip-file containing ALL ape's together with ONE list giving all background information. Or at the most do it in two posts to prevent the thread from getting broken/loading problems if it gets to huge. But 30 or so single posts are just too much (=confusing)!!

eg do it like this:

• name of apefile - name inside of AVS - short description and/or author
  
• cls_dynamic.ape - Dynamic Clear Screen - render ape that offers customizable settings... blablabla by shreyas_potnis
• ...

beeferoni

2nd April 2005 22:03 UTC

ah, see I already made a txt file of all the info I could acertain. (I have that info on the ones where I could get it, but not neccessarliy in that order.) I don't want to go back and re-figure it all out now. I aplogize for the messiness, but it's still more organized than it was. I am really brain dead right now (really bad cold), and I just can't process that much right now. :(

Honestly I aplogize for not realizing what I was getting into.
But I do want to thank everyone who kept talking and made it a worthwhile project.:up:

and it will have to be in 4 or 5 posts, considering I can only attach 102k bytes at a time.

^..^

2nd April 2005 22:14 UTC

you could either sort them alphbetically (A-G, H-M,...), or by their types (render/trans/misc or unknown...).

However you do it, that way it'll be much easier to work through them and decide whether they are still common or already out to date.

beeferoni

2nd April 2005 22:18 UTC

They are coming alphabetically. I don't know how many files it will be, I mean tentacles alone is 68 thou bytes. I am cutting it down as much as I can.

beeferoni

2nd April 2005 23:01 UTC

I really am sorry it's such a mess. The best I can do is 11 posts.:igor:

START LIST:

beeferoni

2nd April 2005 23:03 UTC

:confused:

beeferoni

2nd April 2005 23:05 UTC

:weird:

beeferoni

2nd April 2005 23:07 UTC

:(

^..^

2nd April 2005 23:09 UTC

well you could make only the list of the apes at first, i guess most people around here know the apes quite good

beeferoni

2nd April 2005 23:09 UTC

:mad:

^..^

2nd April 2005 23:10 UTC

but when we are at it already, go on.. improve your post count a bit ;)

beeferoni

2nd April 2005 23:11 UTC

:eek:

beeferoni

2nd April 2005 23:14 UTC

You know that's not what I'm after. (I can't believe I got up to 'senior member' already.):D

beeferoni

2nd April 2005 23:16 UTC

:winamp:

beeferoni

2nd April 2005 23:18 UTC

:p

beeferoni

2nd April 2005 23:25 UTC

I was also trying to preserve continuity. Otherwise they would have all been in random files, if I had tried to make them all fit into the least # of zips.

beeferoni

2nd April 2005 23:29 UTC

:o

END LIST.

Bah. I hate APES. *runs screaming from the room*:igor: :weird: :blah:

hboy

3rd April 2005 12:50 UTC

i think we could make also a sticky thread about the edit button and common sense about flooding the forums.

:rolleyes:

[Ishan]

3rd April 2005 14:34 UTC

ugh. You could have done better beeferoni :confused: i thought i told you to start a new page with all the APE's. You've just doubled your work now, do it all over again.

Just imagine a newbie seeing this thread and having to go to Page 11 to get the APE's :hang: i thought this idea was to make it easier to find APE's.

^..^

3rd April 2005 15:06 UTC

Didn't we plan to sort some unusual apes out? Let's do that here before.
Cause in that new, well ordered, tidy thread we should only post all the apes seperatedly and nothing else.

beeferoni

3rd April 2005 15:43 UTC

I didn't know how else to do it. Should I start a whole new thread to post them? It would still be 11 posts. Tell me exactly how you want it done, and I'll do it that way.

^..^

3rd April 2005 16:05 UTC

OK, this is my suggestion in order to get a decent ape-list-thread:

• Step 1: post a list of all ape's here, so that we can decide which to leave out and (if possible) to collect the missing informations.
• Step 2: start a new thread and post apes & their corresponding information usig one post per ape, (this way you can download only the apes he really needs).
• Step 3: ask a mod to lock and sticky that thread.

beeferoni

3rd April 2005 17:16 UTC

Ok, so here's an alphabetical list of all the apes I have. But who's going to decide what to include and/or leave out? I'm sure there will be some differences of opinion, which will just make it MORE confusing (for me) to know what is or isn't supposed to be on the final list. I've already gathered as much info on each as is possible for me, so here's the list of all I have, let me know when you need something else or have made a final list of apes to be included. :|

(each one is the EXACT filename.)

3d.ape
AddBorder.ape
amoeba3d.ape
avs_edge.ape
avsgrabber.ape
CLS_dynamic.ape
colormap.ape
convolution.ape
conway.ape
eeltrans.ape
flame.ape
flock.ape
fluid.ape
FramerateLimiter.ape
fyrewurx.ape
globmgr.ape
ifs.ape
meatballs3d.ape
multifilter.ape
multiplier.ape
NegativeStrobe.ape
pfavs.ape
picture2.ape
player2.ape
RGBfilter.ape
saver.ape
ScreenReverse.ape
slideshow.ape
texer.ape
texer2.ape
triangle.ape
tv.ape
vf.ape
vf2.ape
VfxAviPlayer.ape
vjcontrol.ape

That's all I have.

eheiney

3rd April 2005 18:43 UTC

You forgot APEresize.ape in there. It does nothing visually, and does not need to be added to any preset. It is included in Misc effects and simply enables the AVS Editor to be resized. I've since forgotten who authored it, but I find it quite useful. :D

beeferoni

3rd April 2005 19:02 UTC

As I said, these are ALL the apes I have. It does not appear in my misc. list, so I can't list what I have no knowledge about. I listed everything that appears in my EXTERIOR .ape files.;)

hboy

3rd April 2005 21:25 UTC

Originally posted by denkensiefursic
You forgot APEresize.ape in there. It does nothing visually, and does not need to be added to any preset. It is included in Misc effects and simply enables the AVS Editor to be resized. I've since forgotten who authored it, but I find it quite useful. :D

TomyLobo

3rd April 2005 21:47 UTC

Originally posted by denkensiefursic
I've since forgotten who authored it, but I find it quite useful. :D

beeferoni

3rd April 2005 23:33 UTC

ok, thanks guys. There's one more. :)

Damn it, TommyLobo, what is your deviant adress? I can't find anything on that site, because you have to be a member to search. I would join, but I got this:

We are sorry, but you are attempting to create an account from a network or Internet Service Provider (ISP) that is shared by an abusive individual. This individual's repeated actions have forced us to ban your shared ISP, causing you this inconvenience.

What a joke. One bad apple spoils the bunch I guess.

TomyLobo

3rd April 2005 23:56 UTC

no need to search... just spell my name right ;)
http://tomylobo.deviantart.com

beeferoni

4th April 2005 03:29 UTC

oh my god...*feels like a complete idiot* Thanks.

jheriko

4th April 2005 04:58 UTC

read the beginning of the thread... and this whole thing looks quite funny... :P

seriosuly. clean it up some and start a new thread when it looks okay. maybe test it out in the recycle bin forum

^..^

4th April 2005 14:22 UTC

beeferoni, do you have all information now (who made the ape, how is it called, what does it do...)?

When you make that thread, you should add a hint to your first post, to inform people not to reply (when you're finished you can remove it again).

Besides, i saw there are less than 40 ape's in that list, so they will still fit on one page if posted sperately!

beeferoni

4th April 2005 17:55 UTC

Ok first off, no I don't have all the info needed. Nothing has changed. How can I get information on an ape that I CAN'T see?
(ifs.ape for instance) and eeltrens yes I know it is a widely used ape, but I don't know what it's called in the editor, I have looked many many times.

If I have bitten off more than I can chew, I apologize for not knowing that. I will eventually get a list of some sort done I suppose, but without help it will still be incomplete, for reasons I already stated. I don't mean I just can't see ifs.ape, I mean it CRASHES my winamp right away, so there is NO way I can gather that info. I thank you all for the help already given, but...

I will start again and get as much done as is POSSIBLE. I will start a new thread with the final list when I get done with it. ;)

TomyLobo

4th April 2005 18:11 UTC

eeltrans is Misc/AVSTrans Automation, as the .txt file that should come with it says
maybe i should make an expression help...

eheiney

4th April 2005 18:12 UTC

Originally posted by beeferoni
Ok first off, no I don't have all the info needed. Nothing has changed. How can I get information on an ape that I CAN'T see? (ifs.ape for instance)

beeferoni

4th April 2005 19:32 UTC

Thanks, TomyLobo,(I only got eeltrans through a downloaded pack, so I didn't get the txt file.) and denkensiefursic. (I did a search for ifs.ape but only on Yahoo. I hate Google, but I guess I should have tried it.)

Ok, It won't take me as long as I thought to make the final. I am sorry I've been such a whiner through this. (Not to make excuses, but I am badly sick.) You're right, jheriko, if you look at the original post to this thread, it does look a little ridiculous. Let this be a lesson in humility to us all. :D

I will get that new thread up ASAP

beeferoni

4th April 2005 20:14 UTC

My comp will not let me go there. I tried 20 times each with the same result:

'The operation timed out when attempting to contact www.itsdarkhere.com'

So please if you can give me the info you glommed from it. (or I will just leave the info out of ifs.ape)

BTW, when I do the new thread, should I include the description in the post above the attatched zip, or should I include a txt file in the zips, or both?

^..^

4th April 2005 21:09 UTC

i think both would be good (if it's not too much work for you). For the missing information: you should give us a complete list of which informations you don't have already.

beeferoni

4th April 2005 21:33 UTC

Will do, ^..^

And no, putting both descriptions in is not too much work. :)

^..^

4th April 2005 21:39 UTC

ok, cause the info is important to know what you are downloading actually. and provided that the 'user' of that upcoming service stores the ape-zips he dl's on his hd, he'll always be able to look up what a specific ape does.

eheiney

5th April 2005 01:22 UTC

Originally posted by beeferoni
My comp will not let me go there. I tried 20 times each with the same result: 'The operation timed out when attempting to contact www.itsdarkhere.com

So please if you can give me the info you glommed from it.

TomyLobo

5th April 2005 03:06 UTC

hehe i did that in pure AVS a while ago
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/7769089/

eww this flame.ape's source code is soo sucky
all C++ not a bit of MMX
if it wasnt completely useless, i could double it's speed

eheiney

5th April 2005 05:31 UTC

Originally posted by TomyLobo
hehe i did that in pure AVS a while ago
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/7769089/

eww this flame.ape's source code is soo sucky
all C++ not a bit of MMX
if it wasnt completely useless, i could double it's speed

---

beeferoni

5th April 2005 05:31 UTC

Thank you guys very much. I did finally get that site to come up (this comp is piece of shit), so I have all the info on that stuff. But still I appreciate it. :)

Ok, a list of info I need:

FrameRateLimiter.ape author

triangle.ape author (I know it's someone I know well but I've forgotten!)

tv.ape author

vf2.ape VisFrac works perfectly for me. But for some reason, VisFrac2 will not appear in a preset, although it's in the editor list. When i click it, nothing happens. Even when I removed visfrac1 from the avs folder, same problem. So any info on this will be needed. I assume it's the same author as the first, and basically the same as the first (except improved?) but I can't know for sure.

vjcontrol.ape author and description (I have not the foggiest notion what the hell this does!)

and does anyone know which avi renderer needs the 'outgrab.dll' file to go with it? It came with it in the zip
from the old crappy thread, but I have long since deleted the zip. So if nobody knows offhand, let me know and I will surf through that mess again to find it.

That's all I need!!!
We're almost done! :)

eheiney

5th April 2005 05:37 UTC

triangle.ape author - I'll let Tomy answer this one. Hint, hint. Wink, wink.

I'm not too sure either about the rest.

beeferoni

5th April 2005 05:43 UTC

Ah, I should have known. Sorry, TomyLobo :D

oh, and denkensiefursic this was origianlly not meant to be a resource of 'useful' or 'widely used' apes. It is just meant to be a resource of apes period. If you want, give me a list of apes which are definetly outmoded, and I will include it in the description as a caveat emptor.

^..^

5th April 2005 09:58 UTC

framerate limiter was made by goebish and outgrab.dll belongs to avsgrabber (made by unconed).

[Ishan]

5th April 2005 11:39 UTC

shit. Tomy you seriously need some publicity :D

beeferoni

5th April 2005 15:57 UTC

Great! Thanks... now what about the others?

3d.ape author

tv.ape author

visfrac 2 - any info

and please explain to me what vj control does? (and who wrote it)

^..^

5th April 2005 16:55 UTC

as far as i remember correctly vjcontrol was made by unconed, but i didn't exactly understand how it works. it's for vj'ing purposes anyway.

the other apes are completely unknown to me.

UnConeD

5th April 2005 19:09 UTC

No permission was given for redistributing my APEs here. Poof.

Wait until you have software you made spread out over a gazillion moronic sites all over the web, without the original disclaimers and no method of removing it. You'll just /love/ receiving mail about it 6 years afterwards from wankers who expect commercial-grade support from you.

beeferoni

5th April 2005 20:00 UTC

So do you want us to leave out your apes, UnConeD? Damn that would almost make the whole list pointless. (You made a third of the apes I have!) How about if I officially asked for your permission here and included a disclaimer with each of your apes about not asking for technical support? Which I planned on doing anyway. Sorry if I presumed too much. I didn't see it as distributing, (I guess that's exactly what it is, though.) I see what you mean about idiots who would expect more than they should. :)

TomyLobo

5th April 2005 20:26 UTC

he said you can list them but not redistribute them

most of his apes are included in winamp anyway, so you dont need to upload them

^..^

5th April 2005 20:59 UTC

talking about unconeds apes anyways: is there no thread/info about vjcontrol.ape here? cause searching brings up nothing bout it...

beeferoni

5th April 2005 21:05 UTC

I couldn't find anything on it, but if it's for vj-ing (duh!)
I guess that's enough to describe it somewhat. (?)

If nobody knows the other ones, I'll just leave out visfrac2; I'm sure it can't be much different from the first.
And tv.ape and 3d.ape just won't have authors listed. Still a pretty complete listing. I'll give this 1 or 2 more days before I start zipping files and make the new thread.

^..^

5th April 2005 21:26 UTC

what about leaving out the author's names? that way none of these gets annoying support requests! ;)

UnConeD

5th April 2005 22:35 UTC

For vjcontrol, see:
http://www.acko.net/art/avs

But if you're not a VJ, it's not useful at all.

^..^

5th April 2005 22:46 UTC

thanks! i was just curios how it works but the example preset explains it pretty good.
unfortunately i'm not a vj, but i guess it's quite fun, so hopefully i can use it some time (doesn't anybody need someone for vj'ing on a party or so?) ;)

beeferoni

5th April 2005 23:00 UTC

I spent a little bit of time getting author names, but I guess If we want to avoid those authors getting mail about it (why anyone would expect support on 6 or even 3 year old software is beyond me) I will leave them out.

^..^

5th April 2005 23:09 UTC

erm.. actually it was just a joke... :D
well, to me it's all the same...

[Ishan]

6th April 2005 11:29 UTC

cant you post the link of UCD's Ape's instead?

beeferoni

6th April 2005 16:49 UTC

Is it all right UnConeD if we list your apes (not uploadable) with a link to acko.net?

UnConeD

6th April 2005 18:07 UTC

Link as much as you want... but please link to the APE page, not to the .zip files directly.

jheriko

7th April 2005 06:07 UTC

it might be better if you link globbmgr to my deviant art site or something... i intend to update it

beeferoni

7th April 2005 06:12 UTC

Ok, I can do that, jheriko. You caught me just in time, I was zipping them now. :D

And TomyLobo, Even though your apes will be in zips in the new thread, I will include a link to your deviant site, if that's all right. (Yes, I will spell it correctly!):D

beeferoni

7th April 2005 20:10 UTC

Ok, I will start the new thread in a couple of hours. Does anyone have any final advice? (Besides posting "DO NOT REPLY TO THIS THREAD"). I have all my files laid out nice and neat, everything accounted for, so it should go off without a hitch.

^..^

7th April 2005 21:24 UTC

hmm, good luck!

btw in which part of the AVS forum are you going to post it? Cause there already are four stickies in the main-forum..
although i don't quite know where it should belong instead. perhaps into the wishlist, so that you can add new ones from time to time (eg. 'solution-apes' to problems posted in the wishlist or other usefull new stuff)?

/edit: never mind we can still ask a mod to move it afterwards...

TomyLobo

7th April 2005 23:26 UTC

heh you listed normalise.ape, that one is pretty useless :P
i mainly use it for testing purposes

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