Titule

13th January 2005 22:34 UTC

Next song / next preset
I was sure that this feature is implemented: Select the next preset (also randomly with possible randomly chosen transitions) whenever a new song starts.
I searched here but could not find how to enable it. (Just how to switch presets after n seconds).
I still believe it must be there somewhere since it is not in the wishlist.

Do you know where it is?

[Ishan]

14th January 2005 13:56 UTC

gee....there is such an option? i did'nt know either :weird:

hboy

14th January 2005 14:13 UTC

this smells...like potential flaming! :D

Warrior of the Light

14th January 2005 15:00 UTC

Look at the date
now don't tell me you searched the forums before you posted
in other words, no it is not possible

Titule

15th January 2005 12:05 UTC

Thanks for the link.
I did search, but the thread does not include the keywords I was looking for. Believe me, I'd rather have found a quick answer to my problem instead of opening a new thread and wait a few days for the answer.
It seems to be popular to answer every question that was asked before with eyes-rolling and "you should have searched", while I'm confinced that most people did so and would prefer to find the answer in the fist way or the FAQ.
And if I've found the link, I would still have asked if it has been implemented, since the request is three years old.
So I propose to put it on the wishlist, could one of the admins please move this thread there? (I don't want to next dude flaming me for cross-posting :rolleyes: )

Yathosho

15th January 2005 12:48 UTC

isn't that possible with hotlist and/or avs playlister? i never used any of them, but i think they can probably do what you are looking.

Titule

17th January 2005 21:04 UTC

Thanks for your info.
I checked avs playlister and lost expectation of my life. This program is unusable, horribly designed, and crashed two times in 15 minutes.
Hotlist is stucked in a beta version with no further active development.

PAK-9

18th January 2005 14:04 UTC

You lost expectation of your life?

Titule

18th January 2005 19:52 UTC

I think so. I should have measured my blood pressure when evaluating this program to be sure, though.

[Ishan]

20th January 2005 08:44 UTC

i have'nt tried AVS playlister......i have used hotlist once....altho i dont require these programs:p winamp is enough for me :D ;)

goebish

29th January 2005 21:12 UTC

Next song / next preset
This would require a general purpose plugin.

Note: I first made Playlister for my personal use and it does what I want :)

Titule

5th February 2005 14:52 UTC

Why does it require a plugin?
AVS already knows when a new song starts, you can see this in the beat detection section: There you can choose how to detect the beats when a new song starts (adapt or learn new).
So the trigger ist there.
All what it needs is to connect it to the switch preset section.

goebish

5th February 2005 15:35 UTC

This cannot be done by an APE so it require a general purpose plugin. I'm currently making one, please stand by.

jheriko

5th February 2005 15:54 UTC

if its that easy... make your own.

TomyLobo

7th February 2005 03:56 UTC

Originally posted by goebish
This cannot be done by an APE

TomyLobo

7th February 2005 04:00 UTC

here's an example :)

[Ishan]

7th February 2005 14:30 UTC

was that what was asked in the begining? i think that preset just displays the list of songs played.

I suppose the main topic of the thread was something else. He wanted a new preset for every new song.

APE's cannot do that i think.

Warrior of the Light

7th February 2005 14:56 UTC

they can't since the ape is a part of the preset. the first preset without the .ape wouldn't cycle to the next preset

Titule

8th February 2005 00:56 UTC

Originally posted by [Ishan]

I suppose the main topic of the thread was something else. He wanted a new preset for every new song.

TomyLobo

8th February 2005 09:10 UTC

Originally posted by [Ishan]
was that what was asked in the begining? i think that preset just displays the list of songs played.

I suppose the main topic of the thread was something else. He wanted a new preset for every new song.

APE's cannot do that i think.

Titule

12th March 2005 22:06 UTC

Hm.
I don't understand everything said here, about APEs and whatsoever.
I understood that some people say it would be possible to program it. But I don't see that my problem was solved, or did I miss something?

^..^

13th March 2005 02:03 UTC

no your problem isn`t solved yet. You should wait until one of those ape-freaks solved it ;)
I don't get that idea, that an ape can work, while it's not in the current preset. But it might be possible...

goebish

13th March 2005 13:31 UTC

Re: Next song / next preset

Originally posted by Titule
I was sure that this feature is implemented: Select the next preset (also randomly with possible randomly chosen transitions) whenever a new song starts.
I searched here but could not find how to enable it. (Just how to switch presets after n seconds).
I still believe it must be there somewhere since it is not in the wishlist.

Do you know where it is?

^..^

13th March 2005 14:08 UTC

At first it worked without problems, i tested many differnet settings (transitions etc) and everything was fine, but after a while it showed a bug: evertime a new song starts or i forward to the next one i get that windows *dong* sound.. Any idea why?

goebish

13th March 2005 14:16 UTC

I can't reproduce it :(
More details ?

edit: got it,I've to go for now but I'll try to fix it tonight :)

^..^

13th March 2005 14:29 UTC

i have no idea why i get that! Suddenly it was there and i cannot remove it again! So i can't reproduce it either, im still having it... :( I reinstalled your plugin but i still get this win-notifications sound when it loads a new preset...
At first i thought it's because of the prompt-box you get when you made changes to a preset. But since i reinstalled the plugin and loaded an untouched preset the problem shouldn't be there anymore... :confused:

Titule

13th March 2005 16:40 UTC

No, I did not lose anything again. It did not crash. Thanks.

But:
It seemed to work the first few minutes, but than there was a transition in the middle of a song. Than I rememebered you wanted the random preset change disabled (why?) so I did and from that time I never had a preset change again.
I tried de-activating and activating again, re-started winamp.
No change. I did not even get the windows ding that ^..^ gets.

^..^

13th March 2005 18:32 UTC

it seems that only i am getting that ding, so it's not that bad. (Also i don't really need this plugin). However it seems that it doesn't have anything to do with the "save changes" box. Cause i still get that sound when this feature is disabled. Any idea why it could be? btw "random preset advance" is disabled.

goebish

13th March 2005 19:49 UTC

"Ding" problem should be fixed now.
Download it from the same location.
Thank for testing :)

Titule

13th March 2005 20:33 UTC

I downloaded and installed it.
Still it does nothing.
I'm watching the same preset over and over now.
Getting bored.
Losing expectations of life now...

Is there something I can do for debugging?

goebish

13th March 2005 20:39 UTC

Try classic & modern skin, attached & detached visualization window ...
Strange as it seemed to work first ...

^..^

13th March 2005 21:03 UTC

hey, no annoying "ding" anymore! It works fine now! Great job!
What was the problem with that sound anyways?

Titule

13th March 2005 22:53 UTC

Nothing. Not even a "ding".
In classic/modern/detached/attached
with "Random" on/off,
with "randomly switch presets" off/on and 10/30/100/1000 seconds

At least my bloodpressure did not go up, so I assume the program does not do any harm.

goebish

14th March 2005 06:37 UTC

Problem with sound was because I sent a WM_SYSKEYDOWN message to the avs window instead of WM_KEYDOWN followed by WM_KEYUP.
Titule I really don't know what's wrong with you. Can some more people give it a try ?

edit:

I'm just looking at the include files of the new SDK and I see:

#define IPC_SETVISWND 611 // param is hwnd, setting this allows you to receive ID_VIS_NEXT/PREVOUS/RANDOM/FS wm_commands
#define ID_VIS_NEXT                     40382
#define ID_VIS_PREV                     40383
#define ID_VIS_RANDOM                   40384
#define ID_VIS_FS                       40389
#define ID_VIS_CFG                      40390
#define ID_VIS_MENU                     40391

#define IPC_GETVISWND 612 // returns the vis cmd handler hwnd
#define IPC_ISVISRUNNING 613
#define IPC_CB_VISRANDOM 628 // param is status of random

^..^

14th March 2005 12:49 UTC

sorry can't really follow. Actually i have no idea about real coding things. However the plugin works fine for me, although i found another bug: it seems as if you cannot deactivate it permanently. Everytime i deactivate it and restart winamp it is activated again. Is it supposed to be this way or is it really a bug?

goebish

14th March 2005 17:38 UTC

I just came back home... let's have a look

Updated
This one should even work for Titule (?)
Config loading/saving works fine here.

Titule

14th March 2005 20:28 UTC

Seems you never give up? Good, I appreciate that, but, sorry to say that:
No.
The configuration window and the version number has changed. (nice work, though :))
But nothing else.
I think now that it never worked and the first transitions I observed were the random transitions every 10 secs.
I got so unsure that I even pressed the "next" button to see if there are ANY preset changes (it worked).

How can I help? Maybe you implement to write debug-output to a file that I can send you?

^..^

14th March 2005 20:42 UTC

well, here it works fine now, without re-enabling on winamp restart and without ding. Dunno, perhaps it's a matter of different winamp versions, that it doesn't work for you titule?

Titule

14th March 2005 20:56 UTC

It's winamp 5.08e
Is there any newer?

^..^

14th March 2005 21:07 UTC

or older: im using 5.07, perhaps that's the problem?

Titule

14th March 2005 21:09 UTC

Why don't you update, then? :)
Or: Let's wait for goebish to reveal his version before we go on..

goebish

14th March 2005 21:13 UTC

This shouldn't be a problem. I really don't understand what's wrong with you Titule. Do you switch to next preset when you press 'u' key ?

Titule

14th March 2005 21:22 UTC

There's nothing wrong with me..
Winamp switches to the next preset when I press 'u' as well as pressing the "next" button.
It just don' switch preset when the next song starts playing.

^..^

14th March 2005 22:14 UTC

sorry to tell you that, but i just now updated to winamp 5.08e and it still works fine! So it's not a version problem.

Titule

22nd March 2005 21:40 UTC

I understand that you cant't help me.
Anybody else willing to try to test the plug-in or write something that works for me too?

[Ishan]

23rd March 2005 11:01 UTC

just checkec this out. Works fine for me too :)

Titule

23rd March 2005 21:42 UTC

:weird:
Just tried again, nothing.

When is the preset supposed to change?
Do I need to set the transition?
Do I have too many presets?

^..^

23rd March 2005 21:59 UTC

as the name says it should change to a new preset whenever a new song starts or the current song restarts.

neither do you have to set a specific kind of transitions nor does the number of presets matter. When i tested that plugin i tried all different transition settings and i couldn't find one that doesn't work.
Concerning the number of presets: i guess the plugin recognizes when a new song starts and then simply tells avs to do the same that happens when you press space. So i don't think that the plugin cares about the number of presets, otherwise random-preset-on-spacebar wouldn't work either! :)

Titule

24th March 2005 19:48 UTC

Why isn't it working?
What can I do for debugging?

^..^

24th March 2005 21:11 UTC

Did you reinstall winamp anyway?
Do you have any other plugins installed that might interact?
Did you empty your temporary internet files?

the last one is nonsense ;)

Titule

25th March 2005 22:46 UTC

I re-installed winamp. Thanks to that, I have to setup everything again.
The plug in does not work.
I de-installed that annoying plug-in and don't want to hear about it any more.
And now I will empty my temporary internet files..

^..^

25th March 2005 22:54 UTC

sorry can't help you any further...

btw why did you have to set everthing up again after reinstall? Usually it keeps the former settings?! However i'm no expert for winamp troubleshooting ;)

[Ishan]

26th March 2005 15:35 UTC

dude i really have no idea why this plugin is not working on your computer cause it is working really fine here.:)

^..^

26th March 2005 15:46 UTC

Even goebish, who actually made that plugin, has no clue why it doesn't work for titule, strange thing...

It's somehow funny, that titule was the one who asked for this plugin and now when it's made it only works for the ones who don't really need it.

TomyLobo

9th April 2005 01:45 UTC

really strange problem :)
where did you placethe .dll file?

blaz

29th December 2005 15:18 UTC

I think i know what is the problem with Titule
It's the prioroty of plug-ins. I had the same problem, but then i unninstaled some plugins and it worked.
Titule where you have your list of plugins in General purpose window, on which place is it, the AVS presets cycler?
On one computer i have it on last and it works, but on the other i had it on first place (dind't work) so I uninstaled some plugins (Nulsoft modern skin support, Nulsoft Global hotkeys and another but I don't the name, and I can't tell you why I unninstaled this plugins,) So this solved my problem, that may be the same as Titules.

But on the 3'rd comp i have this problem. when i start winamp i have an error and it says:

This application has failed to start because MSVCR71.dll was not found. Re-installing the application may fix the problem.

I have tried reinstalling winamp, tried the updated version of plugin,
tried to use winamop v5.08e, latest winamp version, and still the same :(

Warrior of the Light

30th December 2005 10:30 UTC

Blaz, this thread is 9 months old. don't revive dead threads :igor:

goebish

4th January 2006 08:42 UTC

Originally posted by blaz
But on the 3'rd comp i have this problem. when i start winamp i have an error and it says:

This application has failed to start because MSVCR71.dll was not found. Re-installing the application may fix the problem.