hungryskull

17th November 2003 22:54 UTC

Did they know?
When AVS was made,I wonder if they even imagined what we would be doing with it in a year or two. What people do with it now is far beyond normal music vis's. We have complex SSC objects and raytracing DM's. What do you think?

Magrakamajira

18th November 2003 00:37 UTC

Probably not.....if people (like unconed for example) had never created new and useful .apes, then AVS would probably have become boring and forgotten....

sidd

18th November 2003 21:03 UTC

i have a feeling that they dont even know what we are doing with it. When justin was about for all the avs 2.7 stuff, he had never heard of ucd's apes. Which suggests that he never got a hold of the packs.

Deamon

18th November 2003 22:13 UTC

That sounds logic, though it's kinda weird, innit?

UnConeD

19th November 2003 00:05 UTC

sidd: untrue, that was a misunderstanding.

sidd

19th November 2003 05:53 UTC

oh.. my bad.

horse-fly

19th November 2003 06:18 UTC

well, avs was a system with, not unlimited possiblity, but unlimited potential. the makers would have had to have seen some type of advanced calculations used within the presets, or else it would not have been added in.

UnConeD

19th November 2003 07:53 UTC

Remember that the preset idea had already been done before with vis's like Mocha or Whitecap. They were both codable similar to AVS.

AVS added two important things: the ability to combine simple components together in any order, and an easy to use GUI.

The question of intention is rarely valid. I think a certain Douglas Adams quote is quite fitting:
"First we thought the PC was a calculator. Then we found out how to turn numbers into letters with ASCII — and we thought it was a typewriter. Then we discovered graphics, and we thought it was a television. With the World Wide Web, we've realized it's a brochure."

Oh by the way.. 'a year or two'? AVS is a lot older than that. AVS 0.1 alpha 12 says: Compiled on Aug 10 1999 at 18:25:50. That's the oldest one I can find.
Featuring a whopping 16 effects (render/trans). Funny thing is that a lot of things in 0.1 haven't changed (much). Like the n-color blenders for the render effects, or the built-in trans / movement presets (until 2.7 that is).

sidd

19th November 2003 13:22 UTC

while its mentioned, ucd, is that your shitty presets that come with the release build of mocha?

=D

UnConeD

19th November 2003 19:30 UTC

Shitty? Why don't *you* try to do better? ;)