GKZ

31st August 2003 05:52 UTC

I'm back... and w/out shareware
Hey all.

You might remember me from "The Random Collection" You know... the thing that showed how much a guy can screw up in 24 hours... Anyways... I've found some time to play around with AVS some more and ought to have a re-relase of the old pack with some decent presets in it and NO SHAREWARE garbage in a few more months from now. Just some questions...

1) Is anyone still holding a grudge?

2) Is there an easy way to fill the screen with a solid color or a gradient by using a superscope?

3) Are there any good AVS tutorials out there?

Dr. M

shreyas_potnis

31st August 2003 07:35 UTC

There's this thread about the AVS primer (newest version) hanging around here, download AVS primer (or from Atero's Sig).
ssc to fill screen:

frame:
cp=0;n=w+h;
pixel:
cp=bnot(cp);
x=i*2-1;
y=if(cp,1,-1);
red=blablalblbalalb;
blue=blablalblbalalb;
green=blablalblbalalb;

code your colour.
Bye.

Deamon

31st August 2003 10:11 UTC

or:

x=i*2-1;
y=0;

red=blablabla;
green=blablabla;
blue=blablabla;

movement:
y=0;

also code your color here.

Tuggummi

31st August 2003 13:29 UTC

Or check out the first page of the tips&tricks thread for a few posts about gradients.

Not holding a grudge, just don't charge money from avs.

Raz

31st August 2003 14:11 UTC

I think he gets the idea that AVS is not something to be prostituted now.

anubis2003

31st August 2003 16:30 UTC

As long as you don't start up the shareware again, then I won't hold a grudge.

Deamon

31st August 2003 17:12 UTC

what shareware?

anubis2003

31st August 2003 17:18 UTC

A while ago, he was trying to get some $$ from AVS presets. Search for it if you really want to know more.

[Ishan]

31st August 2003 17:23 UTC

is'nt that mentioned somewhere that you are'nt suppose to earn $$ from AVS?

Rovastar

31st August 2003 19:48 UTC

Originally posted by Ishan_Rocky
is'nt that mentioned somewhere that you are'nt suppose to earn $$ from AVS?

Clinical

31st August 2003 20:08 UTC

A quick look through the bowels of the site turned up nothing that says you can't make money from your AVS presets... although I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to make money from OTHER people's presets. If it's really an issue that needs solving, someone could e-mail the folks at Nullsoft and ask 'em directly.

Also: is it possible to create a screen-filling color gradient with the Color Map? Or is a SSC the only way to do it?

mikm

31st August 2003 21:24 UTC

Not with colormap directly. To create more advanced (albiet less dynamic) effects, you can create a black to white gradient then customize it in colormap.

Deamon

31st August 2003 21:25 UTC

A color map only changes color on the already rendered screen according to color intensity. You therefor have to render a gradient screen (in any way you want), and you can color that with ColorMap.

I agree with Rovastar, I don't think it's wrong to make money out of presets you made by yourself, but it's not quite the avs ethos.

Raz

31st August 2003 21:29 UTC

They are essentially using nullsofts coding in AVS for their own benefit. I don't agree at all with it.

mikm

31st August 2003 21:30 UTC

There are probably some legal issues with that- using Winamp to make money. Somewhat like downloading stuff and selling it.

Rovastar

31st August 2003 23:41 UTC

Using Winamp to make money illegal. I wouldn't have thought so what about all these plugins taht peopel have to buy. What is the difference you need Winamp to run them.

I hope Nullsoft don't start sueing all the VJ-types that use AVS and get paid in clubs, etc.

If it is your own stuff you have written no problem but other peoples stuff. No-no.

I look at it the same as I do my MilKDrop stuff I have the IP rights to my stuff I do with as I please.:) LEgally I think Nullsoft will actually strugle (if they ever did follow that path (I doubt it anyway) but the bad PR will be intense) I see it like making a picture in Photoshop.

Tuggummi

1st September 2003 05:47 UTC

Well as far as i know, the avs "help" screen does say something like "You are free to use it at parties, clubs etc." So i guess Vj:ing is ok, and i also guess that shareware avs isn't illegal either (just a guess). But wheter or not it is illegal/legal, it is still pretty much judged by the community. No one here at the forums is making money out of their beloved hobby so naturally people get upset when someone comes and tries to make a profit out of it.

[Ishan]

1st September 2003 08:07 UTC

heck! i feel so stupid:p

Deamon

1st September 2003 16:30 UTC

why is that?

[Ishan]

1st September 2003 17:23 UTC

Originally posted by Rovastar
Is it? Well I didn't know that. Can you verify that?

Personally I do not have a problem with charge although it does not set a good impression on the forums and AVS ethos.

jheriko

1st September 2003 18:40 UTC

ssc:

x=0;y=0;
red=,blue=,green=

movement:
d=0;

Clearscreen in one colour.. allows you to clear the screen in a way different to Dynamic Clear Screen APE if you really need to. DCS is pretty useful for this though if you don't want synching or some specific pattern of colors.. and its slightly faster.

Tuggummi

1st September 2003 19:41 UTC

That's also useful jheriko, tho i think he asked specificly for gradients :p

shreyas_potnis

2nd September 2003 09:50 UTC

If you really DONT know to code specefic colours, then make a black n white gradient and use DCS APE with some kind of blending, although here's a good color technique:

Beat: hu=rand(628)*.01;

Pixel:
x=i*2-1;
hu=i*2;
red=sin(hu)*.5+.5;
green=sin(hu+2)*.5+.5;
blue=sin(hu+4.2)*.5+.5;

followed by a y=0 movement

Tuggummi

2nd September 2003 10:08 UTC

Shreyas, you seem to be conveniently forgetting some decimals there...

Also don't you think it's better to use pi instead of 2 for that hu=i*2 ?

Deamon

3rd September 2003 09:04 UTC

I hear some superior talking over here ;)

jheriko

3rd September 2003 13:31 UTC

Re: I'm back... and w/out shareware

Originally posted by GKZ

2) Is there an easy way to fill the screen with a solid color or a gradient by using a superscope?

Tuggummi

4th September 2003 06:56 UTC

Stupid me... i forgot how to read :rolleyes: