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chrisc
5th August 2003 02:05 UTC
new graphics card and I'm so happy
I just installed a new "geforce2" card.
now my mother bord tries to keep up with winamp instead of the other way around. I'm sure it's no big deal to you guys.but I realized how crapy the presets I made are to the rest of you.
I know I said this before but I'm so happy. Like a kid in a candy store.
I just played 2 games that wouldn't play before because I went from 4 meg to 64 on the vid card.
I have a few 100 of ya'lls presets that might as well be bran new.
AVS rules.
anubis2003
5th August 2003 02:19 UTC
you know that the video card doesn't make a huge impact on AVS - actually it barely makes an impact at all.
And it isn't your motherboard that is trying to keep up, but your CPU.
chrisc
5th August 2003 02:51 UTC
I get what your saying, but I saw Elivs and jeriko double in frame rate. I guess i should have said my 503 Mhz chip is trying to keep up. well any avs now matches the beat. but the keybord input form me is slower.yes' I understand My cpu is a piece of **** but.I got the most tweaked 500Mhz. - machine out there.
Pixelcraft
5th August 2003 04:00 UTC
Good ol' AVS. Never gets better graphics. :)
I saw Elivs and jeriko double in frame rate
Uhm, wouldn't that look kinda bad?
anubis2003
5th August 2003 04:01 UTC
Not if he was getting 5FPS.:p
chrisc
5th August 2003 04:50 UTC
if you think I'm I screwing around I saw my fps go from an avg of 5 to 16. big whoop right but for me an incredible change. zero lag, not on this piece of sh**.but as near as I could get.yes I bout a cheap computer 4 years ago. but to night I'm stoked.
Zevensoft
5th August 2003 06:32 UTC
The hardware blt of the new card could make that much of a difference you know, windows is really slow at software blts.
horse-fly
5th August 2003 06:46 UTC
500 mhz... i'd kill for that
Deamon
5th August 2003 09:28 UTC
lol, going to buy an AMD 2600+ in a month, with a Radeon 9700+ (128MB, directX 9+ support, etc...). Don't think the AVS's I made till now on my Pentium 266 will still look nice on it, is going to be a speedburst from here (holland) to Tokyo, finally able to do something more with AVS :), now I only have to wait (and work damn hard for it ;)).
anubis2003
6th August 2003 01:21 UTC
my Alienware 3.2GHz PIV Geforce FX 5900 should be coming in soon. I think they sent it off on the 4th and they said it shouldn't take more than 3 or 4 days. I can't wait. I want it now, goddamnit.
devils night
6th August 2003 02:34 UTC
sounds good. i hope to get a new computer soon as well. i think i will go with the 2.4GHZ pentium 4 with hyperthreading and hopefully i will be able to get the new geforceFX 5900 with 256MB. now if AVS is still slow with that i don't know what it will take for that to run smoothly at fullscreen
Deamon
6th August 2003 07:27 UTC
The geforceFX 5900 ultra? :) yay, that's the fastest card on the market now. (though also the loudest, and therefor I suggest you still take the ATI Radeon 9800+ if you want a silent computer. The performance drop is almost nothing (just a tiny bit of 3d mark score, in the games you won't even notice), and the noice level is really a lot lower, which makes it a recommendable buy.)
just my two cents :)
devils night
6th August 2003 19:00 UTC
that is true Deamon the gefoceFX 5900 will definetly be the top graphics card for very long sense it is just a few more point better than the raedeon but its just my preference i just like to be different instead of everybody else getting the ATI card and the AMD chips i just like to take a little risk now and then and besides the 5900 and raedeon are just about the same price around where i am anyway
anubis2003
6th August 2003 19:56 UTC
I think you forgot a "not" in there somewhere.:p
I am getting that card regardless of volume - I could care less about my computer being "silent".
chrisc
7th August 2003 04:27 UTC
update -It keep's geting cooler
tonight I thought what the hell.I hooked up an old monitor from my 486 and even though the duel screen support lowered the res. on my second screen to 600x800.the avs played just as fast on both monitors.
maybe the graphics memory on the gforce2 bleed into the crappy ati pro(4meg)or maybe not whatever.all I know is 2 screens take longer to screw with but I can change the avs on the little monitor while waiting it on the other in full screen. oh and yes I went though hell adjusting everything.
Deamon
7th August 2003 07:28 UTC
nice :).
Tuggummi
7th August 2003 09:49 UTC
Not another gfx thread? :p
I got a 3-10 fps boost when i changed my sdr to ddr :) (depending on preset, example: moon of mana got only 2.5 fps while the presets at avs party 3 got way faster :D)
Deamon
7th August 2003 11:40 UTC
I'm really curious to see how much my boost is going to be. Can't wait ;)
HarsH
7th August 2003 17:22 UTC
saw a display at my local computer store playing avs (god this thing gets around!) on a computer which had 6 flat screan monitors all hooked up. What was cool was
a) That fullscrean render was spread out across the 6 monitors.
b) It was insanely fast (getting on for 40 FPS @ 1024x1168)!
c) They were playing el-vis. (I think it was golden, but i'm not sure.)
It turned out that the pc was a alienware pentium 4 3ghz, with a geforce Fx 9700. awesome!
anubis2003
7th August 2003 20:53 UTC
GeForce FX 5900? Or ATI Radon 9700? Which is it? Or is it a hybrid card?:p
Damn, my sweet ass computer came while I was at work and they couldn't leave it because I have to sign for it.:mad:
HarsH
7th August 2003 21:40 UTC
might have been
Deamon
7th August 2003 21:49 UTC
Might have been.... which one? The ATI, or the Geforce. There is no such thing as a GeForce FX 9700 ;)
HarsH
8th August 2003 15:26 UTC
ati then
anubis2003
8th August 2003 19:52 UTC
I got my new computer now. It's sweet as...anything.
I'm now thinking that the FPS limiter thing may be a good APE to have. Zero-G Maze III gets over 70FPS at 320x200. You can barely see it turning. It turns almost 2 times a second. It's way too damn fast. At 800x600(No pixel doubling) it runs at a reasonable(but somewhat slow) 21FPS.
Deamon
8th August 2003 22:11 UTC
somewhat slow? :p I'd kill for that, though I'm normally working for it now and getting it in a few week. Also the Ati 9700 PRO with it, though I don't quite get why we are always talking about graphics cards here as if they matter to avs ;)
Magic.X
12th August 2003 10:06 UTC
I hope shreyas will get the ape done somewhen.
When i get my new Athlon 64 the boost up from 1GHz will be weird to all of my older Presets.
Deamon
12th August 2003 11:49 UTC
you're talking about the framerate limiter, eh? Yeah, I can't wait to have it as well.
Tuggummi
14th August 2003 12:02 UTC
Uhm... framerate limiter? O_o
Why not just adjust the perfomance in the display options... jeez... :rolleyes:
Magic.X
14th August 2003 12:06 UTC
Because a framerate limiter can be passed with the preset is much smarter then a comment saying "best to watch at xx.xfps" and the anyoing fact that you'll have to adjust it every time.
zamuz
14th August 2003 22:23 UTC
man just looking at this thread makes me drool for a better pc... right now i'm in a laptop, pentium II mmx, 192 ram in a 228x228 avs screen. i like my tiny little piece of pc though :)
flarkit
15th August 2003 07:51 UTC
Originally posted by Magic.X
When i get my new Athlon 64 the boost up from 1GHz will be weird to all of my older Presets.
I do agree completely with you! ;)
Firstly, AVS is indeed one of the most fascinating apps I have ever come across (it helps to be a programmer with a strong interest in electronic music!).
I run AVS 2.6 at 384x285 on my P3-866 (128Mb SDRAM) at work and get around 20fps, which is bearable. We have an 1GHz Athlon (512Mb SDRAM) at home which does about 50% better. Then I got myself a gaming machine 3 months ago: XP 2100+, 512Mb DDR-333, 128Mb Radeon 9500 Pro. :cool: now I get the same frame rate when running fullscreen at 800 x 600 x 32bpp (80% screen height).
I think it would be
so amazing if it were possible to have software and hardware-rendering. This would push the complexity up quite a large bit though: using an API like OpenGL or Direct3D, plus somehow ensuring that the presets could safely be switched between software and hardware.
Magic.X
15th August 2003 08:12 UTC
Most of the effects, avs uses may not be done with 3d hardware. And those who could, will probably never as it's unlikely that there will be a really innovative update to avs.
But if you want, you could write ape's that use 3d hardware to render something.
[edit] Welcome to the AVS Forums, Flarkit
Tuggummi
20th August 2003 13:18 UTC
Because a framerate limiter can be passed with the preset is much smarter then a comment saying "best to watch at xx.xfps"
Yes, but i was referring to Anubis's "problems" of the avs's being too fast
for him. Yes the framerate limiter could help people like Degnic, who is always yapping about the framerate O_o , but still i don't think it would be such a great ape. If you need make effects that are dependable on some certain framerate... well booh on you then :p
And yes i yap about the framerate too, but my policy always is "The faster, the better" and no framerate
limiter can help there :rolleyes:
And anubis, just use a bigger window or use wa3, that should do the trick ;)
Deamon
20th August 2003 13:24 UTC
I have to run AVS at at least 800*600 in WA3 to get som speeds to watch the AVS, it's going way too fast otherwise :p. All of my older presets are so weird now.
Magic.X
20th August 2003 13:28 UTC
Well, booh on me then. :p
IMHO you just don't get how valueable this would be.
But maybe you'll change your opinion about this if it's done. (Hurry, Shreyas ;))
Deamon
20th August 2003 13:30 UTC
I haven't heard about any progress in it for quite some time, is Shreyas still working on it?
Magic.X
20th August 2003 13:38 UTC
He volunteered to do it, i hope so at least. Otherwise i'll have to get my ass up. awww
ToDo List:
-Finish Hotlist 2.3 and get it ready for release
-Continue working on CodeMate
-Start work on the limiter.ape
-Go to work every day
-Organize next Party / VJ set
-Do some PC-DJ'ing (to get better)
-Get a GF
-Care about RL
-Jeeez and after all try to get some sleep!
This is waaay too much, i'd need 36h a day...
[Edit]Did i happen to miss the tournament preset? :hang:
Btw, order != ranking. [/Edit]
Deamon
21st August 2003 09:40 UTC
lol @ point 7 & 8. I do that already. It's great to have a girlfriend, they force you to care about real life. How about that 2 in 1 ;). Oh well, good luck. :p
Magic.X
21st August 2003 11:10 UTC
Hey, not that i would'nt care about RL, i do very much, but things need time to be done, ya know. I dont need a GF to force me caring like you :p but after beeing a single for half a year, a new one would be nice ;)
Deamon
21st August 2003 11:46 UTC
I don't need a GF to force me to care about RL, but it does help ;). I do a lot in RL without my girlfriend with it, like sports etc, so I'm capable of living a real life as well. Woohoo! I'm multi-talented :D. What I do with my girlfriend is private, so don't bother asking.
Deamon
21st August 2003 13:17 UTC
lol, that's some of the many things ;). Where do you find such smileys? I love 'em.
Magic.X
21st August 2003 13:33 UTC
Within our community forum.
Here is the full Smiley List.
:D
Deamon
21st August 2003 13:39 UTC
sweet :) thanks.