GKZ

16th April 2003 01:29 UTC

New Guy with New Presets
Hey!

I've recently released my first preset pack... Until it's added to the winamp.com presets database you can get it from the downloads area of http://www.geekwurkz.tk. I'm relatively new to AVS so any speed improvements would be welcome... Considering they were designed on an 300 MHz AMD K6-2 proc, they're rather optimised already so I could get half decent framerates.

Nick

BTW... Please excuse the installer, It's my first installer made with NSIS and it's designed to install the presets to the winamp 2 path only.

BTWx2... Please tell me what you think of them as well.

hungryskull

16th April 2003 02:11 UTC

You made shareware AVS Presets I have never seen that before. Here is my review of your presets.

01-intro - Ugly,repetitive and barely music responsive.

02-Black Hole - Kind of ugly.

03-Bubbles - Very simple and it could be more music responsive.

04-Burning sun - Kinda ugly.

05-Channel - Doesn't look very nice.

06-Driving - Very simple.

07-Enter the Wormhole - Not music responsive.

08-Meteorite - This is very simple.

09-Nauesa - Ugly and simple.

10-NoTA-logo - Not very nice also slightly boring.

11-Pastel Firewurx - Simple.

12-Plasma Globe - Not very interesting.

13-Pulse - Don't like this one.

14-Spiral - Ugly.

A lot of these presets are simple but at least you used some superscopes and Dynamic Movements.

GKZ

16th April 2003 03:16 UTC

Well, I might as well put the full version up for review here... It's got one preset that is supposed to be unbeliveably simple, you'll know it when you see it. It's at http://www.geekwurkz.tk/downloads/setup.exe

Phaze1987

16th April 2003 08:52 UTC

Pretty newbie presets...work some more and try to understand movements and the greatest tool,the superscope.

Tuggummi

16th April 2003 09:27 UTC

SHAREWARE AVS? WTF?!

Please don't do that... Many of us (more like all) do presets for FREE just because we like doing AVS presets. We give away free code that others can use as well in their own presets considering that we give credit where credit is due.

But to charge money from AVS PRESETS? That is out of the question at least for me! It's not moraly right to charge money from something others can do themselves as well. Besides AVS presets are "soft coded" add-on's to a hard coded plugin, they need the actual avs system to run. I know that wa plugins need the actual winamp to run, but for AVS? You need 2 "separate" (while avs comes with winamp, it's still a separate component) softwares to get the damn thing to work, first winamp and then avs on top of it, and after that the actual avs presets!

Sorry, but this kinda thing is unaccetable and just makes me :mad: We do them for free and you charge money from it! Also to tell you the truth these are very very basic presets and don't even look that good. Even the "newpicks" presets look better :igor:



Fucking fuck... i guess i now have to write to copyright part also: "You can't use effects coded by me if you charge/gain money from your presets" Thanks a bunch! :mad:

shreyas_potnis

16th April 2003 10:19 UTC

well, I do AVS as a hobby, as a passion, an addiction, thats what I do AVS for...and I would hate anyone charging money for the presets.
anyway, I dont think anyone would pay for those presets (no offence)

GKZ

17th April 2003 01:53 UTC

Hey!
I'm allowed to charge money for them if I want to...
Anyways, I'm selling them to wannabe DJs at the local flea markets who will pay $50 for any POS that has good advertising. It's not my fault if they don't know better.

Nick

shreyas_potnis

17th April 2003 09:34 UTC

they would kick you if someone sent them some of tugg's presets or UnConeD's ;)

GKZ

17th April 2003 21:24 UTC

That's why I always cover my rear. ;)
Anyways, I'm not trying to be the next UnConeD. This is mostly a hobby (as in I don't spend more than 2 hours per preset on average.) If I come up with something cool, that's great, if most of my stuff is mediocre (or worse,) so be it.

Nick

BTW... I'm making these on a 300 MHz system, so I have to keep them simple in order for them to work. Of course, if a new PC appeared at my door... :D ;)

NemoOrange

17th April 2003 21:29 UTC

Ooooo, an AVS sellout, this might be interesting.

GKZ

17th April 2003 21:48 UTC

I never thought everyone would be so POed about the idea of shareware... Oh well, c'est la vie. Maybe I should keep the shareware version for the flea markets and put the full version up here... Whadd'ya think?

Nick

Raz

17th April 2003 22:16 UTC

Any respect we would ever have for you has officially gone to shit. Charging money for crap presets, a sellout before even getting half decent at AVS, thats just low man.

Phaze1987

17th April 2003 23:18 UTC

GKZ that aint normal and really not polite from you,you show us and the whole communit 0(zero) respect.I have nothing against making some quick money but what you`re doing is just crap IMO.Dont sell anyone else`s presets or i`ll hunt you down(really).

Nic01

17th April 2003 23:24 UTC

Selling presets?

If they took a month's worth of work, I understand, but from these peoples' responses...

GKZ : You won't make it in life.

Jaak

19th April 2003 17:07 UTC

Pffff! selling presets, this is lame, you aint gonna be rich this way, even the winamp is free, why chould then some n00b sell his presets?????????????
you must be heck of the good avs-er, petter than UnConeD, fsk, elvis, skupers etc. to sell even just ONE of you'r presets, the presets are downloadable at winamp and deviantart any time FREE!!!!

Raz

19th April 2003 17:57 UTC

Rip off artists piss me off. Go and get a job.

Request for thread to be locked before more flaming ensues.

GKZ

20th April 2003 01:47 UTC

Look, since y'all are so pissed, expect the preset pack to be pulled down within the hour. Happy? I was trying to make some pocket change.

GKZ

Raz

20th April 2003 01:55 UTC

Go and work for it then. Don't sell noob presets, presets for a piece of subsoftware to a free piece of software. Not even a good ones. Submit the pack at WA or deviantart or wherever just don't charge for it unless it's worth paying for.

GKZ

20th April 2003 01:55 UTC

The presets HAVE BEEN REMOVED!
Please disregard any and all shareware notices in the copies you have downloaded.

Regards,
Nicholas

GKZ

20th April 2003 01:59 UTC

Look, I apologise for the way I acted above... Hopefully that'll regain at least 0.00001% respect.

Nick

shreyas_potnis

20th April 2003 11:13 UTC

well, it was your decision...

Raz

20th April 2003 14:16 UTC

I have slight respect for you for admitting you were wrong and correcting and apologising. And not reacting by flaming members for critisising you. I thank you for remaining civilised. NOW we can welcome you to the community.

Phaze1987

20th April 2003 14:23 UTC

Apologies accepted.Welcome to the community Nick ! :)

Jaak

20th April 2003 19:12 UTC

Thanks for removing them, welcome you to the winamp avs forums.

shreyas_potnis

22nd April 2003 09:55 UTC

yeah, welcome...just make sure you dont do that again! (am I sounding grown up? ):igor:

nixa

22nd April 2003 13:03 UTC

I got free drinks at one (private)party i made special themed presets for...but I think i would of got them anyway so that doesnt count

Tuggummi

22nd April 2003 13:08 UTC

I got free drinks at one (private)party i made special themed presets for...

Raz

22nd April 2003 15:08 UTC

yeah, welcome...just make sure you dont do that again! (am I sounding grown up? )