Archive: It's a wonderful day in the neighborhood


3rd April 2003 02:55 UTC

It's a wonderful day in the neighborhood
Done on Atero's request.


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well i can take a hint. this'll probably be my last "posting" ever, so please read - and please, don't delete this one too.

that, my friends, is simply fucked up. however i'm gonna assume the "denial of service attack" has to do with the way banning works, so that'd be a question for the admins. now my question is this: do you REALLY want someone who's not going to let you object to the way he mods deciding whether you've got a voice or not? honestly, gonzotek, who died and made you god???

there, i'm done. i've said my peace. like i said before, you're probably never going to see me again on these forums - and i may quit avs alltogether as well. i'm going to leave it up to you guys to get the da3bd tribute together.
bye.

--Atero

p.s. gonzotek - if you so much as touch nic01's account because of this, i'll...i'll...shake my finger at your avatar.


3rd April 2003 03:06 UTC

OK, if you read this atero - it's not that you were trying to disagree with the mods - I've done that before. It's the way that you tried to do it. Flaming everyone is not the way to go about doing that.


3rd April 2003 04:30 UTC

Thank you anubis. That's absolutely the crux of it.

Atero, get this: No one died and made me God. I, however, was asked to do this by admin and other moderators and only accepted the role after thinking about it for some time. Who asked you to flame people on Winamp's behalf? You're still welcome back after your temp banning(done not by me, but, justly, by your regular AVS mod) and you're still welcome to discuss what you think this forum needs with me if you want. I believe my email address if easy enough to discover. I'm not at all sure what quitting AVS does for you, but I guess if it makes you happy, go for it, man!


p.s. Regarding Nic01: Nothing will be done to his account, but there was ABSOLUTELY no reason to use another means of contacting me. You had every opportunity to make a reasonable statement on this forum and you still have the opportunity to talk to me privately. That you still haven't done so only shows the forum more clearly what you're really about.
-=Gonzotek=-


3rd April 2003 07:16 UTC

how can you get angry at a guy with a gonzo avatar?


3rd April 2003 07:44 UTC

Atero said recently in a chat:

<Atero> he has his email adress set so people can't see
<Atero> so i can only pm him
<Atero> and i can't get to my control panel if i cant get to the forum
<Atero> and i can't get to my pms if i can't get to my control panel


3rd April 2003 16:42 UTC

And as we all know, gonzotek is the most dedicated AVS forum visitor of the bunch.

*cough*

Did I miss something?


3rd April 2003 18:46 UTC

When I have a preset I'm proud of, ya'll will be the first to see it. What more do you want, a few drops of my blood, sweat, and tears mailed to you in a wee glass vial to prove my dedication? In the words of a better man than me, put up or shut up. Either make positive suggestions about what I *should* be doing for you or put me on ignore and just follow the basic forum rules and you'll never notice I'm here.

[EDIT]OK, Just found out (thanks Jones) I am technically Un-Ignorable due to my mod status. My bad. There still shouldn't be much reason for me to interact with most people, as a mod, unless I'm requested to or someone does something blatently against the rules.[/EDIT]

-=Gonzotek=-


3rd April 2003 19:53 UTC

You`ll also do AVS ? Just to make us feel better ? *tears* ... :D Now lets get serious.Anyone who wants to talk to atero send him an email.Or go to #finnish-flash on Quakenet for the best chat.And Atero DONT QUIT AVS BECAUSE OF A BAN FROM SOME FORUMS.Deviantart still exists...


3rd April 2003 20:01 UTC

Of course I'll do AVS. But not just to make people feel better (although I'd be happy to hear it does), but also to understand it and to enjoy it myself. I like coding, and I like tweaking things and it seems to me that AVS is great fun for someone who like's that. Plus I can't think of a better way to be ready to answer n00b questions than having gone through the same thing they have. If the stigmata of my being a mod ever wears off, I'd really like to have some friendly technical conversations with people here. I've never been very good with math and I look at this as a chance to improve that skill.

-=Gonzotek=-


3rd April 2003 20:09 UTC

Before AVS i had no skills or interest with math. Staring in wonder at the code of others such as UnConeD, jheriko, Zevensoft, El-vis and all the other advanced coder inspired me to learn trig and other useful aspects of math involved in avs, it made me realise that math isn't so hard once you can be bothered to read it properly and that coding helps towards making great presets. There really are that many threads that help on here. It'sjust a case of learning and practice, just like anything, never give up trying, Good luck on your AVS quest ;)


3rd April 2003 20:48 UTC

AVS is a great thing. Without it, I probably wouldn't even use Winamp. It helps pass the time and is very interesting.

Have fun with it Gonzo.


3rd April 2003 23:18 UTC

AVS ALSO helps lower my grades if I spend too much time playing with it and not enough time doing what I'm supposed to be doing .


3rd April 2003 23:24 UTC

I know how that goes, it's 12:25 and i'm just settling down to my french paper (as i'm going through the forums for "one last look" though ;))


3rd April 2003 23:29 UTC

I'm lucky though...don't have internet in my room-- I have to go into the basement to attach my network cable, otherwise I'd spend my entire life in the forums


4th April 2003 00:18 UTC

Like raz did for about a week?:p
AVS has never lowered my grades - I've always been lazy when at home.:p


4th April 2003 01:47 UTC

Gonzo - looks like you'll be a top mod.
Never mind these avsers - they're a wierd bunch. Im sure several of us have two heads and six fingers...


4th April 2003 03:11 UTC

what, you mean you don't have 2 heads??
weird

those crazy australians.....


4th April 2003 11:11 UTC

Gonzo: no offense, it's just that I haven't seen you post here much, and the whole point of getting more mods was to get some that would be AVSers themselves rather than another 'outsider' like Rovastar.

Rovastar is still doing a great job, but personally I would only moderate something I care about. I can understand that as a Milkdropper, he won't hang around as often (perfectly normal).

Normally your only duties aside from moderating will be to update the faq and wishlist stickies (though it's up to the regulars here now to track it really and send you the updates).


4th April 2003 12:01 UTC

UnConeD, Gonzo is going to try and learn AVS so that he will be more interested in it.


4th April 2003 15:31 UTC

Originally posted by UnConeD
Gonzo: no offense, it's just that I haven't seen you post here much, and the whole point of getting more mods was to get some that would be AVSers themselves rather than another 'outsider' like Rovastar.
Unfortunately, the moderating team just took on four additional mods (me, russ, will, and Nunzio) and weren't looking for more.
Rovastar is still doing a great job, but personally I would only moderate something I care about. I can understand that as a Milkdropper, he won't hang around as often (perfectly normal).
I care about AVS, this is my opportunity to learn it. Haven't you ever had an interest that you never got around to indulging in? I've been playing with AVS as a user for years, now I want to take it a step further. I didn't know last week I'd be doing this, it's true, but that doesn't change how I feel about it now.
Normally your only duties aside from moderating will be to update the faq and wishlist stickies (though it's up to the regulars here now to track it really and send you the updates).
Sounds good to me.

-=Gonzotek=-

4th April 2003 17:04 UTC

I think the FAQ is in great need of an update. Firstly, it still says the latest version is v2.5, there are many new threads and new coding techniques, things that just generally need putting in there. The last time it had an update was 8th October 2002, that was almost 6 months ago.


5th April 2003 00:25 UTC

How do i stop avs from changing?
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....hreadid=129846
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....hreadid=130734
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....hreadid=125863
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....hreadid=121451
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....hreadid=101705
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....hreadid=113210
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....threadid=71767
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....threadid=36892
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....hreadid=126201
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....hreadid=122805
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....hreadid=122183
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....hreadid=121752
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....hreadid=119246
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....hreadid=119726
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....hreadid=101705
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....hreadid=117119
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....hreadid=115908
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....hreadid=114317
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....hreadid=114153
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....hreadid=108543
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....hreadid=103892
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....hreadid=100898
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....threadid=99093
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....threadid=97456
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....threadid=84496
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....threadid=76676
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....threadid=54563
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....threadid=47271
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....threadid=36892
THATS HOW!!!!!!!!!!

that lot is disgraceful, the worst thing is, thats not all of them, i stopped on the 5th page of the search results. Hows about we add that to the FAQ, that might give a clear path to what is probably the most commonly asked avs question.


5th April 2003 00:43 UTC

<- check out my new avatar ! (thanks to UnConeD for his awesome AVSgrabber and to anubis for his patience and gif creating).
I agree,a new FAQ should be done or at least update this one.Oh and making a new AVS primer aint such a good idea cause Atero will be even more mad and it wouldnt be fair...


5th April 2003 01:48 UTC

Yeah, Atero really doesn't want us to make one.


5th April 2003 02:01 UTC

I don't get why Atero wouldn't want a new one
but I can't say your troubles will be gone when the FAQ is updated

as someone who spends a lot of time in the WA3 tech support (and WA3 GD) forums, I can tell you PEOPLE DONT READ FAQS. That very question is answered in the WA3 tech support FAQ yet we get questions upon questions there about it too.....


5th April 2003 02:03 UTC

Yup. Atero is going to update his primer(I think), but he doesn't want anyone else stealing his thunder.


5th April 2003 09:47 UTC

He almost finished,just has to smoothen out some explanations so expect it soon.


7th April 2003 01:47 UTC

Re: How do i stop avs from changing?

Originally posted by Raz_001
that lot is disgraceful, the worst thing is, thats not all of them, i stopped on the 5th page of the search results. Hows about we add that to the FAQ, that might give a clear path to what is probably the most commonly asked avs question. [/B]
Thats over at least three years though... check out the vjcentral forums if you want to see real mayhem.

7th April 2003 04:06 UTC

Originally posted by UnConeD
Gonzo: no offense, it's just that I haven't seen you post here much, and the whole point of getting more mods was to get some that would be AVSers themselves rather than another 'outsider' like Rovastar.

Rovastar is still doing a great job, but personally I would only moderate something I care about. I can understand that as a Milkdropper, he won't hang around as often (perfectly normal).

Normally your only duties aside from moderating will be to update the faq and wishlist stickies (though it's up to the regulars here now to track it really and send you the updates).
I have given up on the wishlist stickies as there is no update. (MD as well as AVS) I mean what is the point.

Hey I care about AVS too. :);)

lol at Raz have YOU yourself actually read the FAQ. You newbie. ;);)

From the FAQ

"
Question #9: AVS keeps cycling the presets around. How can I stop this and make it show the same preset indefinitely?

To turn this off, you have to open the configuration dialog first (see Question #2). Then, go to the 'Settings' menu at the top, click 'Presets/Hotkeys'. Now, turn off the checkbox marked 'Randomly switch presets'.
Note that AVS will never cycle presets while the configuration dialog is open, even when this is turned on. Make sure that this is turned off anyway when creating presets, because you could easily lose an unsaved preset this way. "

Raz the latest version is still 2.5 within reason all other version 2.5.1 and the latest one have no useful features you may as well use 2.5 is what I mean.

14th April 2003 15:15 UTC

2.6 is actually worse than older versions. Much like winamp3 was worser than winamp2.


14th April 2003 16:34 UTC

There's nothing more we can do without stealing the source code and doing it ourselves. We'll just have to wait or give up and move on or make our own. It's that simple really.


14th April 2003 21:03 UTC

Did anyone try to ask the developers for the source code ?