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dirkdeftly
25th March 2003 04:08 UTC
The People's Choice Awards: Moderator category
Who do YOU think should be the new mod to the AVS forums? If you don't see their name on the list, post your vote. If you would like to run for office, please say so ;)
*I left UnConeD's name off the list because of reasons stated in the "New mods needed?" thread.
Tuggummi
25th March 2003 06:06 UTC
Well even though Rovastar said there isn't going to be a new mod (well somewhere between the lines he said it :)) I still voted.
Consider it as a "People's choice Award" :rolleyes:
Zevensoft
25th March 2003 06:12 UTC
Vote #1 Atero! :D
Magic.X
25th March 2003 06:20 UTC
I voted too, but considering how fast my sensless treat has been locked by Rova, i still don't think that we'll need new mods.
(Good job Rova, dont mind me posting crap ;) )
White Raven
25th March 2003 06:42 UTC
I'd love to run, but... Well, all up to everyone else's opinion, I suppose. I'll try to get MOTM first... -.-
Tough, tough call between Raz, Atero and Anubis
dirkdeftly
25th March 2003 06:52 UTC
lmao, this is the avs forum, you don't even post here! go away :p
White Raven
25th March 2003 06:57 UTC
SEZ WHO? lol :p :D
/me turns away sadly into the cold wind...
Okay okay...
shreyas_potnis
25th March 2003 07:54 UTC
anubis!
EnDurA
25th March 2003 09:40 UTC
lol, bloody general discussions people! anyway, i voted 4 nic, but anubis i thought would also make a good mod (seeing as he posts like 33 times a day :p )
EnDurA
25th March 2003 09:42 UTC
anubis + atero are tying!
Phaze1987
25th March 2003 09:46 UTC
my vote goes to the one who is fit for this job.
daftcunt
25th March 2003 12:58 UTC
i'd rather vote saddam than atero
Raz
25th March 2003 15:11 UTC
Out of all those votes i got one, one stinking vote from myself. Haha i'd be better suited a reviewer or just plain old nobody. I do think that only people who are active in the AVS forum should vote though. Otherwise its just a popularity contest (my popularity must be sky-rocketing) and the person most suited to the job may not get it.
Yathosho
25th March 2003 15:50 UTC
tuggummi: you got my voice :)
wondering how 19 voted in here. fake-accounts? also i'm wondering if that vote will have any effect, as one of the other moderators pointed out in the other thread.
dirkdeftly
25th March 2003 16:57 UTC
well daftcunt...no offense...but 1) you're new here and 2) you haven't exactly got a good reputation at devart yourself.
(daftcunt)
Status: Junior Member
Total Posts: 1
Well I for one am going to pay special attention to the opinions of this woman... :rolleyes:
<edit> i retract my previous statement, looks like you're doing better off than you were a while back...i apologize :) welcome to the forums. </edit>
legohead
25th March 2003 22:12 UTC
Yeah well if you want a dictator - vote #1 Atero! YAY!
I don't think Rova will allow another mod - its the general impression I got.
By the way it is unusual to have so many people vote.
Are there that many regular forum subscriberS?
dirkdeftly
25th March 2003 22:21 UTC
since when am i a "dictator"? i'm only an ass to you because thus far you've been a moron.
anubis2003
25th March 2003 22:26 UTC
Please don't bring this back. Chill now.
Raz
25th March 2003 22:31 UTC
Sorry atero but i agree with legohead. You may be knowledgable and respected but you have a short temper and it may result in unecessary bannings or flame wars from mods. Mods don't flame, they say, "flame again, and you're gone". Also i agree that although we are having this poll, i don't think Rovastar will mod anyone. Your third point i had already pointed out in an earlier post.
Atero, you shouldn't be an ass to anyone regardless of whether they're moronic or not. If they are simply point it out and correct them or ignore it.
anubis2003
25th March 2003 22:34 UTC
Rova isn't the only one that can mod people, although he will have a lot of influence(I think). I think I may ask some other mods and see what they think.
dirkdeftly
25th March 2003 22:56 UTC
i reiterate...would you guys lay off? the only time i've flamed someone in months is with legohead, and he really fuggin pisses me off. and you'll note that it was him who started the flaming - i just said as a mod i'd ban him if he continued to act like a moron and do things like needlessly insult people (which, you will also note, he proceeded to do.)
anubis2003
25th March 2003 23:18 UTC
Originally posted by Atero
i just said as a mod i'd ban him if he continued to act like a moron
That's a less severe form of flaming right there. There is guilt on both sides. Just because he says something to you doesn't mean that you have to say something back. Let him get in trouble - I think it will be coming soon anyways.
dirkdeftly
25th March 2003 23:28 UTC
"Let him get in trouble - I think it will be coming soon anyways."
sounds like a 'less severe form of flaming' to me....
anubis2003
25th March 2003 23:35 UTC
No, I didn't say anything bad about him. I am merely referring to the fact that he could be getting in trouble if he continues to make remarks like he has been. I made no personal remarks about him. I did not call him a moron or anything else that could be classified as flaming.
Raz
26th March 2003 00:29 UTC
Isn't it ironic how the method in which we try to prevent flaming and pointless posts has led to more arguments, flaming and just plain conflict as well as lots of unnecessary posts than i've seen in the past few weeks put together.
anubis2003
26th March 2003 00:37 UTC
Yeah, but that could be somewhat related to there not being an active mod watching this forum(for the last few weeks, at least). I've noticed a lot of things being said that I don't think Rovastar or the other mod's would tolerate without saying something.
dirkdeftly
26th March 2003 02:34 UTC
"No, I didn't say anything bad about him. I am merely referring to the fact that he could be getting in trouble if he continues to make remarks like he has been."
i.e. acting like a moron?
Tuggummi
26th March 2003 06:08 UTC
Originally posted by killahbite
tuggummi: you got my voice :)
Thanks :) That makes me happy :D
shreyas_potnis
26th March 2003 08:02 UTC
uh..do you get PAID when you are a mod?
Tuggummi
26th March 2003 08:41 UTC
PAID? You oughta be kidding. Why should they get paid? They are already gods so i don't think they should get paid for being a god :) :blah:
shreyas_potnis
26th March 2003 09:03 UTC
The thought came to my mind, as they do work here, so they could be paid by NULLSOFT
Magic.X
26th March 2003 09:28 UTC
Originally posted by Tuggummi
They are already gods
Are they? What do you think is so cool about beeing a mod?
Have a look at
Polymorph Forum if you want. I'm Admin there, the überGod so to speak. There's nothing cool about it, just the duty to keep it running and up to date.
Tuggummi
26th March 2003 09:39 UTC
Im just pulling your leg guys :)
Being a moderator is indeed great responsibility, but they still don't get paid. I just don't understand where that idea of payment comes from. Being a mod is a job you have to do with care and requires constant activity, but still you gotta admit that everybody else looks up to you also :)
Anyway, this thread isn't going anywhere anymore and i don't understand why im writing this :igor:
Magic.X
26th March 2003 10:02 UTC
Because you need to get your überPostPump. http://www.htwm.de/mkrause1/polymorp...s/icon_lol.gif
btw who introduced the "über"
Tuggummi
26th March 2003 10:05 UTC
I believe it was Atero who first said über around the forums :)
And you're right about the postpump ;)
You know me too well, i might have to "erase" you... http://www.htwm.de/mkrause1/polymorp...s/icon_lol.gif
Magic.X
26th March 2003 10:13 UTC
Bah, you're not even a Mod. :p
But if you're just a bit of a man, take your sword and fight!
http://www.htwm.de/mkrause1/polymorp...mile_vader.gif
Tuggummi
26th March 2003 10:16 UTC
Bah, you're not even a Mod. :p
Thank god not, but it's good to know that 2 people would like to see me as a mod. Makes me feel special and all warm&fuzzy inside :)
Magic.X
26th March 2003 10:22 UTC
Well if you want, i can Mod you in my Forum as i'm the überGod there.http://www.htwm.de/mkrause1/polymorp...smile_afro.gif
But you'll have to learn German first. :p
Tuggummi
26th March 2003 10:28 UTC
Is "Sieg heil" enough german? :p
You can ask UnConeD to mod or El-vis, or Skupers :blah:
Magic.X
26th March 2003 10:39 UTC
Originally posted by Tuggummi
Is "Sieg heil" enough german? :p
http://www.htwm.de/mkrause1/polymorp...miley_boid.gifThis is a kind of humor i really dislike. I think we're quit by now.
Btw, it should be "Heil Bush" by now.:p
Tuggummi
26th March 2003 10:46 UTC
Im sorry.
That just proves how much german i know and why :cry:
Magic.X
26th March 2003 11:04 UTC
/me comforts Tug
/me hands a nifty handkerchief to Tug
http://www.htwm.de/mkrause1/polymorp...ile_thanks.gif
Tuggummi
26th March 2003 11:08 UTC
http://www.htwm.de/mkrause1/polymorp...ile_thanks.gif
:weird:
Ok i think this is getting too weird for me :blah: :p
Magic.X
26th March 2003 11:37 UTC
ok, lets forget about it and have a beer.
/me hands a beer towards tug
http://www.htwm.de/mkrause1/polymorp...iley_mbier.gif
anubis2003
26th March 2003 11:59 UTC
*me senses a needed Private Message*
dirkdeftly
26th March 2003 19:35 UTC
we should make private conversations held in public forums a bannable offense :rolleyes:
Raz
26th March 2003 20:10 UTC
Atero's dictation has begun before it has started :rolleyes:
Nic01
26th March 2003 20:13 UTC
It's pretty amazing how a 4-month old (Forums time) person can out-voted a 9-month old one...
Just asking a mod : As much as a vote (and IP address) is private, can you check for any double account voter(s?) thru IP checking? (Sure, blame me for being paranoid)
anubis2003
26th March 2003 20:40 UTC
I know at the viralsound forums I can check to see who voted, and what their ip addresses are, and those forums are run off the same basic engine as these. I believe that the mods should be able to check who is voting. We don't want any double votes.
Raz
26th March 2003 20:43 UTC
hey, you got more votes than me, and one of mine was from myself. I'm not bothered either way as long as we don't get an evil, hitler-like mod :D
legohead
27th March 2003 00:48 UTC
I don't think they'll care at the end of the day. Besides two users may share the same default gateway IP. i.e. Atero may not be signing up to vote for himself - it may be someone on the same broadband network (this is by the way an example - I don't need another name calling tantrum).
The best way is to simply allow people to list thier names in the forum - and perhaps make them eligable to vote from a predefined criteria.
mikm
27th March 2003 02:06 UTC
I voted Atero.
It was a tie between Anubis and Atero, but Atero has been here MUCH longer than Anubis and is much more experienced.
anubis2003
27th March 2003 02:10 UTC
Just curious, experienced with what?
Nic01
27th March 2003 02:50 UTC
Anubis, that single post showed either your stupidity or attempt at degrading your opponent(s?).
Anyways, my vote goes to...
Well, you read the previour thread :)
Glad things went back to topic.
anubis2003
27th March 2003 02:53 UTC
No, I'm just curious what he has more "experience" with. There are many things that it could be talking about. I am not trying to say that he lacks experience at all, but Michael's statement was vague.
legohead
27th March 2003 03:16 UTC
Well your not voting for "Miss Universe"... hmm...yeah definately not. :)
Vote for someone you feel maintains the values and attitudes you'd like to see upheld within the forum. A role model if you will.
dirkdeftly
27th March 2003 03:52 UTC
well *I* didn't vote for myself, we dunno about anuboy here... ;)
j/k, dun think anyone here would stoop that low, even for mod-dome :p
And I've been here, lessee...A YEAR + five months longer than Anubis has. Just thought I'd clear that up ;)
Tuggummi
27th March 2003 06:35 UTC
I quote: "Time doesn't make you good, only love and devotion to the craft" (craft meaning a devoted forum member here)
If it were a time question i would beat atero, because i have registered earlier than he is. But it's not a time question and Anubis has proven in a very short time that he is devoted, knows a lot, is friendly and can control his temper *cough*
So time is not the issue here.
Phaze1987
27th March 2003 10:47 UTC
why do i have the feeling this rather small argue will become a new war ?
Magic.X
27th March 2003 11:41 UTC
Because we've seen those discussions waaay too often, we know how they'll end and they always repeat themselfs.
Despite this, i hope thei're gonna be peacefull this time - as well as i hope that Saddam and George Dubbayou are gonne shake Hands (.)
anubis2003
27th March 2003 12:03 UTC
*me shakes hands with everyone*
Let's keep this one peaceful.
Magic.X
27th March 2003 12:29 UTC
lol
*me hugs Anubis*
anubis2003
27th March 2003 12:37 UTC
Please don't if you are a guy. I'm not like that.:confused:
Magic.X
27th March 2003 12:59 UTC
lmao. http://www.htwm.de/mkrause1/polymorp...s/icon_lol.gif
Ok, Ok. Was a joke anyway. Btw, Atero would have apreciated it :p
Oh, what just comes to my mind: Do we have any female regulars in the AVS forum?
Raz
27th March 2003 13:29 UTC
That question has been asked and answered many times... not in this forum.
Ok can we please keep this thread on topic because it's an important topic.
dirkdeftly
27th March 2003 19:50 UTC
okay...if I searched long enough I could find, from the last few months, just as many posts where anubis "lost his temper" as i have. for the last time, you can't say i've "lost my temper" with anyone other than legohead lately. fark off.
anubis2003
27th March 2003 20:41 UTC
LOL. This is great. You have been much better recently Atero. I know that when I first came into the AVS forums you were really making a lot of people mad. As far as I know, I have only made one person mad, but he was mad at you as well.
Raz
27th March 2003 20:51 UTC
I sort of never noticed that you hadnt been making people mad. You just were the last time i payed that much attention and naturally, subconciously assumed that you were. You have my deepest and most apologetic apologies. No wait don't go i want to kiss your ass some more in-case you become a mod.
note for the slow: underline = not i repeat not serious
legohead
28th March 2003 04:39 UTC
Nothin a bit of prozac can't fix.
dirkdeftly
28th March 2003 07:06 UTC
oh, fuck off legohead.
i'll leave you to decide what the bold means.
oh and raz, i hope you'll accept my deepest and most sincere anal probing. :D
EnDurA
28th March 2003 07:15 UTC
lol, hmm that last bit wasn't underlined :rolleyes:
anubis2003
28th March 2003 11:47 UTC
The power of christ compels this thread to return to it's topic.
Magic.X
28th March 2003 12:08 UTC
lol. Do you really believe that there might be a slight chance that a new mod would be born out of this thread? ;)
Tuggummi
28th March 2003 12:33 UTC
I think the last thread already kissed some mod dreams goodbye :)
skupers
28th March 2003 15:28 UTC
If anyone is still interested; I voted Anubis. Polite and experienced (avs-wise and forum-wise).
Phaze1987
28th March 2003 20:48 UTC
no one deserves to be a mod.All are too childish and raz is the most serious one.Nic too.And atero dont say you`ll assrape me cause you cant.
anubis2003
28th March 2003 20:57 UTC
And the mods that we have governing these forums are serious? I mean, look at Bilbo - he's not exactly the definition of serious. A mod doesn't have to be serious all the time.
About this thread actually resulting in something - I don't know. I think it should have a result, but I am not sure what the mods think.
Phaze1987
28th March 2003 21:14 UTC
we dont need a new mod if you think a little harder.these forums arent really the most active ones so one mod(even if he is a mildrop fan) is enough IMO.Anyway i voted anubis :P
anubis2003
28th March 2003 21:36 UTC
Yeah, but that moderator hasn't been able to watch over these forums recently, and even when he was here he still didn't spend as much time in the AVS forums.
dirkdeftly
28th March 2003 22:25 UTC
Anubis would make a good mod (no better than me imho, but that's just mho...), but 3 months isn't experienced :p
anubis2003
28th March 2003 22:33 UTC
but 3100 posts is, IMO. And if you are talking in terms of AVS, I have been doing AVS for much longer.
Nic01
28th March 2003 23:13 UTC
Posts never said anything about experience... That single post make it sound like you postpump because of that to me.
One point off Anubis for me...
anubis2003
28th March 2003 23:19 UTC
Ok, but that many posts does mean that I have spent a lot of time on these forums. What other sort of experience is there besides time spent doing something? Sure I haven't spent as much time on here as Atero, but I have spent more time than a lot of people on here. I know the inner workings of these forums(including a good idea of what it's like to be a mod - I am a mod of another forum that is run with the same basic setup), and know what the responsibilities are. And I wasn't trying to postpump - just defend myself, since I do think that I have all the needed experience to be a moderator of these forums, just as basically all of the regulars do.
Also, I have submitted a PM to a moderator about the issue at hand.
dirkdeftly
29th March 2003 00:04 UTC
well how long HAVE you been avsing?
anubis2003
29th March 2003 00:16 UTC
about a year. Maybe longer. I didn't use to do it that often, and since I didn't come on these forums or seek out any more information/help, progress was slow.
Rovastar
29th March 2003 03:15 UTC
:) what a lovely thread.
dirkdeftly
29th March 2003 03:32 UTC
well i've been avsing for about a year and a half, as i remember so fneah.
anubis2003
29th March 2003 03:48 UTC
I wasn't trying to compare my AVS time with yours. I do consider you to be better at that(except with polyhedra(jheriko is better than me) and collisions). I may have been doing avs about the same length of time as you - I'm not sure.
dirkdeftly
29th March 2003 05:19 UTC
yeah well i can to polychora and you can't :p
Nic01
29th March 2003 15:52 UTC
<- Begins to doubt either Atero or Anubis becoming a mod even after winning in this thread.
mikm
29th March 2003 19:27 UTC
<--Agrees with /\
Raz
29th March 2003 20:50 UTC
This topic has officially gone to shit.
EnDurA
30th March 2003 00:13 UTC
agree's with ^
mikm
30th March 2003 00:14 UTC
pfft...we should all start pestering the mods with PMs until another moderator is instated.
anubis2003
30th March 2003 00:16 UTC
Please don't do that. Then they definitely won't. I have already PM'ed a mod and I am awaiting a reply.
dirkdeftly
30th March 2003 08:21 UTC
"OMG PLZZZZ MOD ME KTHX BYE!!1"
:p
DJ Egg
30th March 2003 23:02 UTC
People
Just because there's only one mod designated to a specific forum, doesn't mean that we aren't all watching ;)
The "moderated by" column is merely an age-old traditional formality.
We were actually considering scrapping it at one point.
Some of the more specialist forums (eg. avs, milkdrop, nsis, developer) usually require less moderating than the more public/general forums (Tech Support, GD, Bitchlist, Breaking Wind, etc).
We expect the regulars to behave in a more mature and professional manner.
But from time to time, situations do arise . . .
Hey, anyone remember when a huge flame war broke out between WA2 Skins forum and GD regulars, over the stupid motm polls? The Skin Love forum was renowned at the time for being one of the most trouble-free forums (and thankfully, still is), but some of the members got totally carried away on that occasion. This required a heavy bout of moderating to resolve and restore the peace.
There are currently 26 active mods on the forums.
Some mods already believe this to be waaay too much.
If and when some of the mods leave (due to whatever reason) and the rest of the mods deem it necessary to instate new mods, then so be it. But at the moment, we don't feel it necessary. Sorry.
However, most of the mods are constantly on the lookout for talent, and if we do deem someone potentially worthy, we will start a relevant "yay or nay" thread backstage.
Noted traits range from:
communication skills
dedication and willingness to help
specialized knowledge (be it in tech support, skins, avs, shoutcast, whatever)
and general je ne sais quoi
If a flame war breaks out in one of the specialist subforums, and it escapes the mods' attention, then we would normally expect one of the regulars to bring it to our attention. (just pm one or more of the mods listed as "currently online").
Like I said, someone is ALWAYS watching.
We have discussed this matter backstage, and a few mods have pledged to keep an extra eye on this place, whenever humanly possible.
Your views have been noted.
Please keep the peace.
Have fun
Egg
anubis2003
30th March 2003 23:13 UTC
Drat.:p Thanks for the reply DJEgg.
Raz
30th March 2003 23:28 UTC
Thanks for letting us know we aren't an island.
legohead
30th March 2003 23:56 UTC
Thank god almighty for that.
dirkdeftly
31st March 2003 05:43 UTC
lol...just wondering...how do you define "modding talent"? :igor: :p
legohead
31st March 2003 06:34 UTC
I.e. you don't bite peoples heads off - you learn what "DIPLOMACY" means - www.dictionary.com atero :)
dirkdeftly
31st March 2003 07:08 UTC
that is simply the most hypocritical use of the phrase "you need to learn what '...' means" i've ever heard in my life
Magic.X
31st March 2003 10:05 UTC
Originally posted by Atero
lol...just wondering...how do you define "modding talent"? :igor: :p
Originally posted by DJEgg
communication skills
dedication and willingness to help
specialized knowledge (be it in tech support, skins, avs, shoutcast, whatever)
and general je ne sais quoi
Lets see...
Atero is very communcative.
Atero is even more dedicated to flame n00bs :p but i sometimes doubt his willingess to help
I wouldnt dare to rank Atero's tech knowledge, coz i havnt seen enough of his work
Atero generally ... is Atero
dirkdeftly
31st March 2003 23:59 UTC
i'm willing to help people who actually need it. not some idiot who's too lazy to take five minutes of their own time to find the answer.
and (not to be pretentious or anything...aww hell, why not) i don't think anyone here (spare unconed, and maybe jheriko and anubis) knows as much about avs as i do :) i'm a shitty avser, but my knowhow can beat up your knowhow ;)
legohead
1st April 2003 00:56 UTC
You are helpful Atero - you have good knowledge and your good at sharing it where it counts. Don't spoil it by letting little crappy things like new user question get to ya...
White Raven
1st April 2003 03:10 UTC
Alright, I know that I'm technically supposed to have gone away and never come back because of the prejucicial crap that goes on here because of the 'Damn GD'ers' but I'd like to let you know that I also occasionally post in WA2 skins, so there. I am a 'tarnished' GD'er. So there.
If you'll read the thread entitled 'Muwahahaha*cough*hahaha* by d0rk, you'll understand the plight of the GD. Will the new Mod elected here be instated as a new GD mod to help 'clean it up' or just another general mod? IMO, only the GD really needs a new mod at this point.
Magic.X
1st April 2003 05:24 UTC
Originally posted by Atero
i'm a shitty avser, but my knowhow can beat up your knowhow ;)
I agree with you. The thing is that i'm overloeded with activities that i like: VJ'ing, avsing, programing, organizing Trance Parties, creating blacklight decorations and even more.
Obviously, most won't get the time that it deserves to make any progress above average.
I try to stick exclusively to one thing when its necesary - actually programming Hotlist 2.2
But the time will come when AVS will be more important, i already planned to work though your Primer - maybe there's something usefull.
At least i got a detailed view on how AVS for VJ'ing should be like. Although most of you all do neat presets, they're mostly too slow IMO. If yo're having a great Party and there are 100 peopel crowding on a floor just about to go crazy @ 145 BPM you need to push them even highter with flashy hyperactive Presets :D
Back to topic, i always enjoy you having one of your "I'll eat this n00b" days, hoping he won't take it too personal.
EnDurA
1st April 2003 10:12 UTC
hyperactive presets rule
[OFFTOPIC] i'm thinking bout putting out a pack based on
look at the pretty lights
Phaze1987
1st April 2003 10:54 UTC
did you notice we have new mods ? :D
Magic.X
1st April 2003 11:05 UTC
I didnt vote for em anyway :p
But so be it. As far as it conciders me, i dont care who's mod.
dirkdeftly
1st April 2003 21:37 UTC
I do. Gonzotek and Rocker don't hang out here, and AFAIK don't even do AVS. Kind of like asking a cook to oversee the construction of a building, don't you think? :hang:
Raz
1st April 2003 22:07 UTC
either of them hasn't posted once, seems they just stuck two other mods in here to shut us up. The reason we wanted another mod is because the one we had already wasn't active enough but now we just have two more inactive mods, what good does that do us?
mikm
1st April 2003 22:19 UTC
I agree. They don't understand that we want a mod that is an active member in the AVS community. I would MUCH rather have one mod like Anubis or Atero than three mods like Rovastar (no offense).
Gonzotek
1st April 2003 23:00 UTC
1. I don't know anything about AVSing. It was this thread that initiated a chain of events that led to me being asked to mod here. So if any of you still wants to see this forum helping new users, I'm willing to learn but could use some direction as to where to start. Atero's primer seems to be a good place, any others?
2. I am doing my homework by reading old threads before committing myself to any actions at all in this forum, that is why you have yet to see a post by me. Do you want an informed mod or an idiot who "bans first, asks questions later?
Now for the bad stuff:
Flaming noobs is unacceptable. If a person doesn't know where to look, and asks a question that has been answered a hundred times before either: A)Ignore it, B)Link to the answered question, or C)Answer it again. I don't care what your previous status in this or any other forum may have been. The winamp forums rules contain specific guidelines concerning flaming, and many posts by many people in this and other threads in the AVS forums either bend or break that rule. Inciting flames is equal to flaming with regards to forum policy. I will not edit, move, lock, or delete any past posts, but be warned that in the future your post may be edited or deleted if it contains inflammatory material. This is a technical support forum, not a free speech/human rights forum. If someone is getting in the way of someone else getting technical support I feel justified in removing them.
I also hope that I do not need to take such measures. I don't enjoy silencing people, even ones I disagree with or dislike. I want to see more AVS presets doing more interesting things and that's why I accepted the additional role of avs moderator.
If anyone wants to discuss anything more with me about my role and intentions here, feel free to PM me.
-=Gonzotek=-
Raz
1st April 2003 23:10 UTC
Atero's primer is good but it has major gaps and problems. He's promised an update but nothing has been spoken of it for a while. The best thing to do is do what you're doing and search through old threads to learn.
The flaming is mainly just over the same old question asked at least once a week by one noob or another. "how do i stop avs from changing" or "how do i make avs" usually irritates all the regulars because we see it every other week. Atero is "teh n00binator" of the forum, he has been advised to cool it off many times but i have never even seen any suggestion to cool down from any mod.
Maybe things will be better this way, i certainly hope so. Glad to have a dedicated mod Gonzo. By the way Rova this isn't putting down your modding ability, we realise you put a valued contribution into the forums we just needed a mod who participates in threads and is dedicated to avs and can give a well deserved "kick in the head" when necessary.
anubis2003
2nd April 2003 01:29 UTC
Hey Gonzo. Atero's primer is the only current grouping of AVS stuff. The FAQ and Tips and Tricks thread have a lot as well, though.
Welcome to the AVS forums. Enjoy your stay. You too, Rocker.
mikm
2nd April 2003 01:32 UTC
Gonzotek: can we just tell them to search the forums and read the FAQ?
dirkdeftly
2nd April 2003 03:05 UTC
I *really* resent how this "situation" is being "handled". I respect Gonzotek as a mod, but this isn't what we asked for.
And yes, my primer will be updated at some point. It's not on the top of my priorities list right now, just remember that.
Gonzotek
2nd April 2003 03:51 UTC
Atero, instead of resenting it (or me), or at least in spite of it, you could let me know what you'd think would benefit these forums. Another mod is not the answer. Throwing more fuel at a fire doesn't put it out. I rarely need to invoke any moderator functions in order to do my job as a moderator. Mostly it involves helping people to get the information they need and to get along with one another.
[Edit]Michael, If it's clearly present in the faq, then a link to it is the easiest way to deal with it on a daily basis. If you can link to other important information, you can not even add a personal message. A lot of mods and other helpful users I know in wa3 and wa2 tech support use text documents with preformatted vbb links and information to make it easier on themselves. Once you set up the list of links, it gets to be faster and simpler to cut and paste then to think of a personalized reply to every silly noob. Not to mention my theory that once they've gotten the impression that this forum is full of professionals, they're be more inclined to act like one themeselves.[/edit]
-=Gonzotek=-
anubis2003
2nd April 2003 03:56 UTC
Yeah, but it does help having a mod around here, just so that people don't try to flame as much. Which is why you're here, now isn't it?
Gonzotek
2nd April 2003 03:59 UTC
I'm hoping that I can be helpful as a tech mod as well as a social mod. There's nothing REALLY wrong here either, so don't anybody worry about it too much. It's nothing that a little loving can't fix.
-=Gonzotek=-
anubis2003
2nd April 2003 04:03 UTC
OK. Start with Atero and Legohead.:p
legohead
2nd April 2003 05:33 UTC
I've got what I wanted. Im shuttin up now :)
All future complaints are going to the mods (they have been anyway coincidentally - its probably why gonzo's here).
Rovastar
2nd April 2003 09:12 UTC
!!!!!!
What do you eant here.
You people are starting flame wars against newbies/each oother are the same that want new mods. Stop starting flame wars to get a new mod.
Sadly I do not trust (m)any of you enough to become mods. Lead by example.
The suggestion at ATero be a mod when IMHO he is one of teh biggest culpirts of the flaming (which is what this is a lot about) is crazy.
The most simple solution is to ban a few of you and the forums would be a much nicer place. DO you really want that?!?!
Each each other to calm down the flaming.
As for a mod not telling people to stop flaming it is all the f*cking seem to do here.
I am getting pissed off with this and will start banging heads soon.
Tuggummi
2nd April 2003 09:19 UTC
Gonzotek seems like a nice fellow, but he has a lot of homework on the AVS forums & AVS in general. I wish him luck :up: & i hope he has a really fast cpu&ram ;)
Magic.X
2nd April 2003 10:49 UTC
I agree with Rova.
This Thread should be locked, it serves no purpose anymore.
shreyas_potnis
2nd April 2003 10:52 UTC
I agree, this thread should be locked ( cant it be deleted )
GooD LucK
Rocker, Gonzotek ( and Rovastar too :p )