Archive: AVS Knowledge


8th February 2003 17:21 UTC

AVS Knowledge
What do you use to base your technical presets on?


8th February 2003 18:07 UTC

I base it on what I want to make, and the knowledge comes from experience, others, or one of those visits to mathworld.wolfram.com


8th February 2003 18:25 UTC

Yes mathworld is a great site. Book-wise I have bought Andre LaMothe's Tricks of the Windows Game Programming Gurus. This has a lot of interesting algorithms and physics stuff. Has anyone bought Eric Lengyel's Mathematics for 3D Game Programming & Computer Graphics? I think I might get it. It looks like it has a lot of useful stuff.


8th February 2003 18:44 UTC

I had to select all the answers becouse they are all true :)
I agree mathworld is great...would be even better if it had all of the books free to view online :P


8th February 2003 19:12 UTC

Internet is great since it is free, but the best stuff is normally in books because the professionals would rather make more money than less.


8th February 2003 20:51 UTC

Hello.
I usually depend on the stuff i learn at school and what i can find in the math books i have...Internet is a great source of information but a real person will always make you understand better then a book or html file.


8th February 2003 21:02 UTC

Yes, but finding a real person to help you isn't that easy. I should have put that as an option. Oh well.


8th February 2003 21:20 UTC

I was talking about my math tutor or my math teacher lol.ANother good option for the poll could be "winamp avs forum"...I learned alot in a short period of time thanks to you guys !


8th February 2003 21:21 UTC

That's under internet. But some people could get something from someone besides a teacher. I know some friends who have helped me out a little, for example.


9th February 2003 03:21 UTC

you forgot my method: bang the keyboard until it looks pretty


9th February 2003 06:25 UTC

u also could of included rip off from friends AVS, ur new avatar looks cool anubis


10th February 2003 06:05 UTC

/me Jukka!
/me hit keyboard with fist!
/me throw mouse around!
/me do this until pretty preset come!


10th February 2003 08:12 UTC

/me like tug did this until pretty preset come!
/me just remembered some math tricks from scool and university


10th February 2003 10:11 UTC

0 I start AVS and create some Render Objects
1 I add some relieable DM's from some of my recent Presets
2 I duplicate them sveral times and change each of them a bit
3 Now the Preset looks cool but is awesome slow
4 I kill half of the DM's
5 Now the Preset runs quite fast but looks like shit
6 Frustrated, i close AVS and think about buying a new Processor
7 10 Minutes later i start from 0 again

Thats what Preset creating usually looks like...


10th February 2003 12:23 UTC

Tuggummi's 'method' is very efficient & I use to do that too. Once in awhile I bang my screen to make that method even more efficient, it really helps (you should try it) :D


10th February 2003 14:31 UTC

Hmmm... Nice methods (I i thought that how the hell can U all make so neat crap)...
Ok, mine is here: If I didnt knew anything about AVS then I slept in my classes, NOW is sleep AND think how to make some nice presets in my classes. Then I come home and realize that all i thought up was crap and I start using Tugs method...


10th February 2003 16:30 UTC

y'know as much as i hate tonic, and as irritating magic.x was (to me, at least) at times when he was here...i must ask, where've you two been?


10th February 2003 18:25 UTC

It seems to me that you, Atero, arn't very tolerant guy...


11th February 2003 01:45 UTC

Where'd you get that idea?:p JK Atero. Well, kinda.:p


11th February 2003 05:12 UTC

I think the whole animated logo thing had something to do with atero's disposition.


11th February 2003 14:14 UTC

Pst! He can here us...

Guys! RUN! His coming........


11th February 2003 19:43 UTC

Zeven: The über-popularity for crap presets is what bothers me :hang:


11th February 2003 21:57 UTC

Hey just like rap/hip-hop music! :P


11th February 2003 23:19 UTC

Tuggummi's 'method' is very efficient & I use to do that too. Once in awhile I bang my screen to make that method even more efficient, it really helps (you should try it)
I thought that was MY idea- if you read through the posts, I said "bang the keyboard until it looks pretty" a couple days before Tuggummi made his post

12th February 2003 07:44 UTC

Bleh Bleh...
Michael, yeah, what ever... just to let you know i have used your idea for the past 3 years, do i have to pay you copyright royalties? :p

oh, almost forgot, the more advanced method i use is the POTASWH method (Put One There And See What Happens)


12th February 2003 14:28 UTC

If you can read french, you can have a look there :

http://perso.club-internet.fr/pcharpen

You'll find some presets and a little tutorial ...


12th February 2003 14:50 UTC

I learned most of it from you gys. Then I rememberd I learned all that in high school:D. Seriously, I even forgot that I heard about polar coordinates before.


13th February 2003 01:46 UTC

I'm not mad at you Tug, just mad that somebody else completley ignored the fact that I also posted that first.


20th February 2003 00:10 UTC

I got my technical know how from myself mostly... i.e. i figured it out myself. This may seem a bit weird, but for example, when I first started to play around with qbasic I accidentally discovered polar co-ordinates, it just made sense to me that x=sin(r),y=cos(r) would define a circle, I was then taught of their existence at school about 4 years later. The only thing from AVS that I didn't really figure out myself was the 3D projection+rotation which I first found on a qbasic website several years ago. The other big help has always been the help files, the only programming/techincal book I have ever read is 'OpenGL Game Programming', I learned basic and c from help files and asm from the intel technical manual which can be downloaded from the intel website.

When making a technical preset I usually sit down with a piece of paper for a while, figure out how it will all work, then code it up.


20th February 2003 00:16 UTC

Well, since none of my presets could be considered "technical" (I attempted a few of those but they failed horribly... sigh), I generally just throw random crap together and tweak it until it looks good. I do use some of my limited math knowledge too... really, I do... :confused:


20th February 2003 10:56 UTC

i learned my math from school. all the math i use (in avs) is simple.


22nd February 2003 05:34 UTC

It wouldn't be a coincidence that POTASWH has "POT" right in the name, would it? :p


22nd February 2003 06:07 UTC

maths textbooks, internet sites, old threads. Anything helpful in any way.


24th February 2003 08:39 UTC

It wouldn't be a coincidence that POTASWH has "POT" right in the name, would it?
No... i don't smoke pot :igor:

I guess i when i tried to find a name for my method i was looking for a similiar shortname than WYSIWYG :igor:X2

24th February 2003 10:27 UTC

.I guess i when i tried to find a name for my method i was looking for a similiar shortname than WYSIWYG X2
Tug doesn't smoke pot, he is just as incoherent as the rest of us.
BTW tried to make avatar last nite, bloddy 50x50 pixels i could only get it down to 65² or so