Miksa78

12th January 2003 09:31 UTC

Problem with overlay and radeon tv-out
Hey,

I have a problem with AVS and overlay. My goal is to get avs to tv-out without having avs on monitor in full screen. I belive that overlay option is just for that. Problem is that when I click on overlay in settings all i get is just i little green line in the bottom of my tv screen. If AVS is in full screen mode also in monitor, tv-out is also just fine. Videos presented with winamp 3 (and every other program)work fine with tv-out (overlay). Also DVD's and so on. This seems to be only problem with "overlay" that i'm having.

Could anyone help me?

I have win2k, radeon 8500 and i'm using winamp3. Theater mode is "on".

Jaheckelsafar

12th January 2003 11:02 UTC

All I can suggest it to check all your settings. Overlay mode is indeed what you want to diplay AVS on your monitor (or tv).

Noizze

23rd January 2003 00:20 UTC

I too am having the same problem.
I have upgraded to the ATI 9000Pro. Has anyone come up with a solution?

dirkdeftly

23rd January 2003 04:41 UTC

Well...my first answer is: Use Winamp 2.x. It's much more stable, and since WA3 sucks RAM like Destiny, I think you'll have a bit better time :)

CoolNSyd

4th April 2004 13:13 UTC

Yup, there seems to be a fault with the AVS Overlay mode. I have a Radeon 9600XT with TV output set to Theater mode; all videos come up fullscreen on the TV but the WinAmp AVS does NOT, even with Overlay mode set on (instead, I get the current AVS preset as a static image).

Cybermaze

8th April 2004 22:49 UTC

Perhaps to clear things up to admins/NS people ...

What we are talking about is us Radeon users when in clone mode can select "theater" mode in driver/control panel. This means when a overlay is created/played the Radeon card will automatically show the overlay in fullscreen on the secondary output (tv).

This seems to work just fine with playing videos (using overlay) ... but if we/I turn on overlay either fullscreen or windowed in AVS I get either a static picture of the AVS when activating overlay with some noise in it or even worse a green horizontal line (distorted).

Is this a Winamp 5 bug?

Anyone know??? Help appreciated ...

Cybermaze

8th April 2004 22:58 UTC

It seems theres another thread about the same topic (also without a solution so far) ... Ill take the liberty to make a cross reference so everyone may check both threads no matter which they find first, should a solution come up :D

http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....hreadid=163320

D12

9th April 2004 20:23 UTC

I think this reason is because of using winamp3.
You can run winamp 5.3a full package, your problem will be solved.

TomyLobo

9th April 2004 20:57 UTC

Originally posted by D12
I think this reason is because of using winamp3.
You can run winamp 5.3a full package, your problem will be solved.

Originally posted by Cybermaze
Is this a Winamp 5 bug?

Cybermaze

11th April 2004 17:34 UTC

To D12, I use Winamp 5.03 while Miksa78 use Winamp 3. Ive got a Radeon 9600 Pro, Miksa78 got a Radeon 8500 other users have other Radeon 8xxx or 9xxx cards (see also twin thread Im refering to) ... we all seem to have the same problem.

Im using winxp, others 2000 so it does not seem to be OS dependant or Wimamp version dependant, Ive got the same error with any version 5.

TomyLobo, Im not sure I understand you interely, but to clear things up. We are NOT running extended mode (meaning the windows desktop is spanned over more than one screen) ... we are running in clone mode meaning we only have one desktop shown on both displays (monitor/tv). The trick is the ATI CATALYST drivers support what is called "theater mode". This means an overlay (eg a videoclip played in Windows Media Player or Winamp) will be shown in full screen on the secondary display (in this case a tv).

In windowed mode: When I activate overlay mode in AVS I expect to get a full screen view of the AVS on the tv, however all I get is a frozen picture of the AVS at the time I activated overlay mode. If I press the "default" button selecting the default overlay color the picture is updated ... however it is not easy to press the button 25 times a second :D.

In fullscreen mode: I select use overlay, choose a resolution and press go. The tv shows a frozen distorted picture while AVS works fine on my monitor.

As stated before running a videoclip in winamp with overlay activated works just fine, the videoclip is played fullscreen on the tv. The same applies to Windows Media Player.

The question is. Should we not be able to see AVS overlay just the same as video? Is it a Winamp3/5 bug? Is it something else?

TomyLobo

11th April 2004 21:36 UTC

well then, why don't you try that extended mode :)
i don't know anything about those modes i have just 1 monitor :) what i explained were just some ideas you could try to stick that overlay to the 2nd screen

casper2k

23rd May 2004 09:17 UTC

hello

does somebody have solve this problem?

I want to use the AVS with the theater mode of my ati card. But it does not run.

I have also testet older version 2.x and the newest 5.03a...

Could somebody help me? Sorry for my english, its not the best.

casper2k

30th May 2004 16:23 UTC

is there nobody who can help width this problem?

Or does somebody know an other visualisation for winamp or an other software, which does not have this problem?

keithjackson

23rd June 2004 06:45 UTC

Fixed
You must download the new display drivers from ATI (not the omega, the official drivers), set the duel display to extended mode, now, set the display device you wish to be primary to secondary and the vice versa (so, the monitor or tv that you want to be your primary must be set to secondary), run Winamp and AVS, set the color you wish to to overlay (any will do), enable the overlay. It should now work. The reason you must switch the primary and secondary is because the overlay in winamp will only display on the device set as the primary, and will have no effect on the secondary monitor. Sorry if this isnt very clear, but hopefully this is of some help.

I am running an ATI Radeon 9600pro 256mb, 384 mb ram, amd duron 1.3 ghz, win2k sp4, onboard sound, etc..

I was having the same problem as you guys were (would not display in regular overlay and would do weird stuff when put into full screen). But i just downloaded the new drivers, and it fixed my problem (well, somewhat, except for the primary and secondary mix up, which could either be winamp or the display driver, one of the other). Peace

Cybermaze

10th July 2004 21:19 UTC

I do not seem to be able to make it work. If I make my monitor secondary and tv primary (and use the theater mode) the overlay mode shows up on the monitor (with a frozen/wrong picture) just as I would on the tv. I use the latest official drivers from ATI ... version 4.6.

ToS[MTS]

5th August 2004 11:32 UTC

AVS PROBLEM
SAME PROBLEM here.

AMD XP1700+
ATI Radeon9200 VIVO

My "Theater mode" also doesnt work with
AVS. I'm shure that (probably minor) a
bugfix in AVS source would solve this
problem. I hope someone from development
is recieving this.

User777

6th August 2004 04:11 UTC

Overlay Mode PROBLEMS Geforce4 MX 420
I always use Overlay mode in Winamp. Untill now it worked fine both in version 2.77 and the new version 5.04.
Allthough sometimes Winamp 5.04 crashes (also without 0verlay mode enabled. 5.04 is not so stable and needs to be worked on more I think).

But the problem I'm having is this:
I used a Diamond Viper 2 videocard with 32mb on it. Everything was o.k

I wanted a better videocard and I became a Geforce4 MX-420 with 64mb.

Now whenever I play Winamp with Overlay Mode enabled Winamp crashes after a few minutes both in version 2.77 and also version 5.04. After that I'm not able to get Winamp working again. I have to restart my PC and perform Scandisk.

Who can advise me how to handle this or solve the problem. Maybe there is someone who also uses Geforce4 and knows this problem and what to do about it.

Thanks.