MilkDrop loads better than AVS

Rovastar

3rd October 2002 17:29 UTC

MilkDrop loads better than AVS
This is not a meaningless random moaning thread about the slowness and poor beat reaction of AVS this is more important than that.

Honestly folks adults only I know there are a few youngesters here

Follow the links from here:
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=108197

then goto the main thread off forum.

Any AVS stories beat that? :):D

dirkdeftly

3rd October 2002 19:18 UTC

Okay, Rovastar, now you're just being a whore. If you don't stop making these dumbass threads we're going to find a new mod to stifle the old one.
Now go back to your forum and go be gay there. :mad:

Rovastar

3rd October 2002 19:55 UTC

Atero,

Are you serious? :confused:

*Sigh*

I thought it was a funny thread on Bluelight and I thought I would share.

Even more so as AVS is 'What we (at Nullsoft) use to (try to) get chicks at parties'

What is your problem?

jheriko

3rd October 2002 22:59 UTC

Well this is a *AVS* forum and we all know how much faster Milkdrop is and junk.

Your linking this to AVS is tenuous at best Rovastar.

The thread was quite funny though.

:p

Montana

3rd October 2002 23:26 UTC

rovastar, don't be like that, what's the deal with that thread?

unconed for mod

Rovastar

3rd October 2002 23:32 UTC

Relax you lot. It is not that much off topic I just wanted to share. I presumed that you would be interested in other things....................................sorry:confused: :confused:

*sigh* boring.

Still is funny though. :)

LOL MOntana who is going to hear you. :)

Montana

3rd October 2002 23:53 UTC

rova, this is a avs forum, wanna talk md, go to the the md forum, don't spread md propaganda here

jheriko

4th October 2002 00:13 UTC

I hate conforming with the masses but I agree that AVS forums should stick to avs. The post wasn't too far off topic and it was fairly amusing but it doesn't really belong here IMHO.

The point is that we here love AVS and not milkdrop, any 'milkdrop is better than AVS' posts or any posts claiming that there is something better than AVS are going to be met with hostility. We like AVS because it is the most versatile, custom codeable, visualiser out there, milkdrop is something completely different, it is not what I would call customisable at all and it is ugly in my opinion (interface and visualisations).

Basically: Don't pimp milkdrop, it just annoys people.

Yathosho

4th October 2002 00:22 UTC

Originally posted by jheriko
We like AVS because it is the most versatile, custom codeable, visualiser out there, milkdrop is something completely different, it is not what I would call customisable at all

word

Rovastar

4th October 2002 00:44 UTC

The thread is not about MilkDrop being better than AVS etc. I only said that for a joke at the start as reference to threads months ago about it that is all done and dusted. Search for them if you wish. It was a sarcastic reference not a plug for MilkDrop. Geez.

I am really sorry you people cannot see that. I was only making a joke.

If the story was about AVS (or any other plug-in) I would have posted it on the MilkDrop forums maybe we are just more open minded there I dunno.:confused: :confused:

Hell I do not mind having another MD vs AVS vs all over plugins discussion but this is not what this thread is about. CAn you really not understand that?

jheriko

4th October 2002 01:01 UTC

The reason that we have reacted like this is because of what was implied in the post, not what was directly said. I'm sorry to have to disagree with you but the overwhelming tone of the first post is 'Milkdrop is better than AVS'.

This is not a meaningless random moaning thread about the slowness and poor beat reaction of AVS this is more important than that.
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Any AVS stories beat that?

It may not have been mean't that way but those sentences come across as 'AVS=crap'. It seems to me like you are trying to get one up on AVS. That last post seemed a bit insulting as well, fair enough some of us overreacted a little but there was a reason.

I am really sorry you people cannot see that. I was only making a joke.
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maybe we are just more open minded there I dunno.
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Can you really not understand that?

NOTE: I'm probably being a bit of a whiney bitch but I like to think that I have a good rock solid point here. I'm going to say no more on this matter, I don't care enough about it.

Karnov

4th October 2002 02:01 UTC

*thinks to himself*

hmmmm.... if i made up a whole bunch of stories sexual in nature, and slapped the title 'AVS' on it for...hmmm...advanced vulgar sex, i could one up MD, and be the hero in everyones eyes

*/thinks*

:p :p uber-toungeincheeck :p :p

Tuggummi

4th October 2002 09:53 UTC

Well it is a funny story yes :)
But the whole avs vs the whole other world discussion is getting SO old! You just don't want to admit that avs beats the crap out of anything else and your only weapon against it seems to be that you moan and complain about the speed, and that's all you got!

Otherwise i enjoyed those other stories as well ;)
If i had a girlfriend i would make love to her with my "i want to be loved" preset projected into the wall ;)

Now BEAT that! :blah:

Yathosho

4th October 2002 11:46 UTC

in fact, the only productive thing to get out of this post is combining the strengths of each vis plugin to create something new, advanced.... would be a lot easier of course, if avs (for instance) was open source.

the thing i dont understand, i remember there were threads in this forum suggesting to make avs open source, but the official always denied this... on the other hand the same people brought us an open-sourced NSIS. comments against an open-sourced avs were many differing versions and sort of chaos. well, i dont see chaos in the NSIS development, so where is the problem?

jheriko

4th October 2002 13:48 UTC

Yeah, why isn't AVS open source? We could add the entire contents of the wishlist ourselves, and maybe even optimise the code even further.

dirkdeftly

4th October 2002 20:52 UTC

because the nullsoft people are imbeciles :hang:

UnConeD

5th October 2002 02:28 UTC

It's not open-source because it would fork so fast we'd have an entire set of cutlary within a day?

Seriously I don't see what the fuss is about. Someone gets laid thanks to Milkdrop, posts a funny story, teh w00t :). The thread was cool (Milkdrop is only mentioned once), and some people here might pick up a thing or two :cool: ). No reason to start bashing Rovastar or Milkdrop.
Oh and I wouldn't underestimate being a moderator. It might sound really cool, being able to edit and delete things, but it's also a responsibility. If a bad thread stays up, people complain that the mod sucks. If something gets deleted, it's the mod who gets yelled at for being too strict.

Besides, would you rather have another "How can I convert AVS to AVI?" thread? ;)

jheriko

5th October 2002 02:38 UTC

Originally posted by UnConeD
It's not open-source because it would fork so fast we'd have an entire set of cutlary within a day?

It would work if we were organised about it and if the source was released only to a small group of us, besides that there aren't that many coders around who care to make changes to AVS. I don't think it would fork quickly or even at all if we all worked together.

Rovastar

5th October 2002 11:47 UTC

Ta Steve for words of reason.:)

Open source can easily turn into open chaos. Everyone wants stuff to be open source now-a-days.

The real problem with AVS IMHO is that it may be better to 'start from the beginning' and write a new peice of code from scrach utilizing 3d cards etc thus getting the speed benifits etc. You cannot really 'patch' these on easily as it will not be all the efficent from what I undestand.

But if Nullsoft ppl are not working any more on AVS then the code in a way is going to waste.............

jheriko

5th October 2002 14:16 UTC

Yeah, I think you are right. To the best of my understanding, just pathcing on 3D accelerated code would slow it down rather than speed it up, I'd expect it would be a lot better to redesign the whole thing from the ground up.

Karnov

6th October 2002 04:04 UTC

It would work if we were organised about it and if the source was released only to a small group of us

isnt this contrary to the definition of "open source"
now, i TOTALLY concur that it would fork QUICKLY but i believe once the noobs were put in their place, and the smart ppl got organized or (even better/more appliciible to me) dont fuck with the code in the first place, becuase we would only screw it up

however, even w/ all those disadvantages, the fact that we could make this project/pastime/hobbie/employment:) even more effective and user friendly (not in a lameass way, you know what i mean (like constants)) outweighs anything stateing why we shouldnt

ok, im done (jeeze, rereading that, i realize that the debate tournament tournament i just went to effected they way i argue. a lot!)