Cat Squared

3rd November 2004 20:54 UTC

i HATE AVS!!!!
Why oh WHY does Winamp sometimes (what i mean is only the times when you havent saved recently and are working on a BIG preset) suddenly....CRASH??

Im running Win XP Prof. and a eror report comes up and sez summing about "avs.dll".And i have only noticed this in winamp 5.x

Is there something i can do to fix it?

Lemme know,
Cat ²

hboy

3rd November 2004 21:40 UTC

save every minute. only way. nothing to do about it atm.

Tuggummi

3rd November 2004 23:18 UTC

Or switch to a different OS.
Many people have complained how AVS keeps crashing over and over on XP. I myself still use win98 and it doesn't crash that often with me (not that it's fool proof either, it does crash, but not that often).

But just do what hboy said, and save, save, SAVE often.

PAK-9

4th November 2004 17:04 UTC

#oh winaaaamp...why must you crash this waaaay#

Mr_Nudge

5th November 2004 01:05 UTC

It just happens, deal with it. Mabey it will be fixed in the next release of winamp, mabey not...

Xerol

5th November 2004 01:30 UTC

I keep having problems too, mostly comes when saving/reloading to see how it plays out from the beginning. It never happens when I've got music playing though, and since I've always just saved when it happens, it's no big deal.

Jaak

5th November 2004 13:25 UTC

i only have one thing to say:
GET USED TO IT

=^______^=

Tuggummi

7th November 2004 00:48 UTC

yaa yaa Jaak ^____^

It a very KAWAAAIIII AVS!!!! =^____^=

Cat Squared

7th November 2004 08:48 UTC

Yeah,yeah I know I gotta just deal with it but having to re-install Winamp 3 times in one day is kinda bad.I just think maybe the Universe wants to punish me for something or it just feels like being evil?!:cry:

But even though :winamp: sometimes buggers out,i'll still stick with it, mainly cause of the music but mostly for the AVS:D

PAK-9

7th November 2004 20:10 UTC

maybe your just so bad at avs-san that it crashes in horror. kiti kiti, dwooaaar

=^____________________________^=

Cat Squared

7th November 2004 20:43 UTC

hmmmmmm.......maybe its because i downloaded PAK-9's new "AVS 4 SE" recently .......;) winamp must recognise it when i load up the presets......just messing PAK-9:p

^..^

8th November 2004 09:50 UTC

Didn't you know: there's a conspiracy of the well known avs-artists going on. They bribed the winamp/avs developers, so that AVS nowadays always crashs when you try to make cool presets (i don't have to mention, that those who started the plot have special crash-free avs versions). This way everyone showing potentials is mentally kept down...
Shame on you all!

Joking apart. PAK-9 recently gave me the tip to store the preset you're making as a whole in an effect list. As long as you type code etc. this list should be disabled.
Since i do it this way my crahs-rate has decreased a lot.

Cat Squared

8th November 2004 18:40 UTC

I do use an effect list for all my presets....it still crashes often.:(

Hmmmm.....i wonder if we'll ever get the UnCrasheD;) version of AVS???

S-uper_T-oast

9th November 2004 03:11 UTC

Or you could take your computer out in the backyard, cover it liberally with gasoline and then light it a blaze using perferably a very short match. Then dance around it chanting to try and appease the M$ gods so they will rain alienware laptops down upon you from the heaven and all your problems will be solved.

Mr_Nudge

9th November 2004 06:37 UTC

Where have i heard that before?

Jaak

9th November 2004 12:22 UTC

Originally posted by S-uper_T-oast
Or you could take your computer out in the backyard, cover it liberally with gasoline and then light it a blaze using perferably a very short match. Then dance around it chanting to try and appease the M$ gods so they will rain alienware laptops down upon you from the heaven and all your problems will be solved.

Warrior of the Light

9th November 2004 12:50 UTC

Would linux make it faster?

[edit]
nevermind, stupid question
[/edit]

PAK-9

9th November 2004 14:56 UTC

Originally posted by Cat Squared
I do use an effect list for all my presets....it still crashes often.:(

Cat Squared

12th November 2004 17:16 UTC

i now see what you mean PAK-9,and you are right,winamp mostly crashes on song change....:cry:
Anyway.......

Cat Squared

11th December 2004 11:37 UTC

Hehehe:)
What with the new version of Winamp....
my cpp(crashes per preset) has gone down DRAMASTICALLY.I get maybe 1 a day..if im lucky!Otherwise its like only once in a week!!
yeah, go winamp 5.6:up:

I guess with Tuggummi's *FINAL* quit from avs the contract they had was cancelled.....wonder who Nullsoft will give the UnCraSheD version of :winamp: to next.......:confused:

Warrior of the Light

11th December 2004 16:34 UTC

Then make sure you get this APE :D

^..^

11th December 2004 18:31 UTC

:D
great thing! You've just brought to light one of the most secret conspiracies! I have presumed that for a long time! (see above) ;)

Cat Squared

13th December 2004 21:10 UTC

:( Of course the conspiracy is true...... :(

I just WISH that i would be choosen next:confused:
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE...Hey Nullsoft.....I LOVE:winamp:

Im ur no.1 FAN!!!!............................





:cry: guess they know i cant do proper raytracing :cry:

^..^

14th December 2004 17:14 UTC

of course they know. and it's not the only thing they know about you... ;)

Cat Squared

28th December 2004 20:00 UTC

Damn Nullsoft :blah:

How did they find out ?

I wonder if they know about that one time at band camp....:eek:

Warrior of the Light

28th December 2004 21:47 UTC

Options>Preferences>General Preferences>4th checkbox ;)

Cat Squared

30th December 2004 17:32 UTC

Thnx for notifiying me......scummy Nullsoft try to schny you at EVERY corner.:eek:


check what i found :

See me NOW!!!!

Cat Squared

2nd January 2005 22:23 UTC

Heres a little sumthin by TomyLobo which will fuk Nullsoft's crashes over.....hehehehe:p

Nullsoft Crashes=0 AVSers=1

AVSLogger By TomyLobo;)

natesuniverse

23rd January 2005 15:28 UTC

xp avs crash
After a week of installing and uninstalling winamp xp and or drivers I decided to click start, go to my computer, right click, go to properties and click. This should bring up system properties, go to advanced, right click on error reporting,check disable error reporting. I'm sure there are various configurations suh as disabling only for programs etc, haven't tried it yet though. Wouldn't you know it's not always the program that's at fault but billy gates sure has sum'n to do with it prabably. So it's not a big avs conspiracy. I to thought it might be bad avs presets since I had just installed over 1000 presets into winamp. Guess I'll have to write good old billy next. Usually winamp would crash within a couple hours saying some kind of vis-avs.dll error, But I just got done running it overnight with no failure. Yea, back to the good old days of just letting it run forever. I hope this helps all you avs fans out there, and nothing kicks the llamas ass like winamp. There is no equal!!!!!

^..^

24th January 2005 22:01 UTC

this option is disabled on my PC since the beginning, but avs still crashes. Good luck for you, that it now runs crash-free or crash-reduced on your PC, but i wouldn't say that it is the windows error reporting that makes avs crash.

natesuniverse

26th January 2005 07:45 UTC

you were right it was't just error reporting, it did make it crash more often though. processor was overheating a little, 54C. Never flubbed up in 98SE at that temp though.
Cleaned everything out at 42C now. Even have system cache enabled that everyone says they have problems with using ati drivers. amd2600@3000+, 9800 tachyon/radeon, 1gb corsair. I give it a week before it acts up, it's windows???? Hope You figure your problen out. good luck.

disable hardware acceleration???
I also ran defrag may have helped. files were really out of order for xp.
completely uninstall/install graphics drivers/winamp
agp aperture in bios
memory test
direct x

^..^

26th January 2005 14:27 UTC

thanks for the ideas, but i won't try to get avs crash-free! It's just not possible when using windows.
Perhaps i could achieve that it only crashes now and then, but then i will certainly forget to save often. And i promise: avs will crash when you haven't saved my recent work which contains complicated and extensive code...

PAK-9

26th January 2005 14:43 UTC

Interesting ideas but as ^..^ points out your never going to get AVS crash-free its just a buggy app. Changing your graphics card drivers and AGP apature wont help because AVS isnt hardware accelerated, it doesnt used DX either so that isnt the problem. Memory errors would affect the entire operation of your computer (albiet rather unpredictably) and CPU overheats would cause your system to shutdown... well... you have an AMD so it would probably just melt into your motherboard.

natesuniverse

27th January 2005 03:18 UTC

never crash free????? I've been running avs 24/7 since I installed it the first time usually the only crash I get is if the window minimizes itself, or if it's something other than avs. I've been running 2600amd 333fsb at 3000+/400fsb for last two years and no major malfunctions. Even with my amd k6 III+ @550mhz I could get it to run respectably. The only time I turn it off is I get a headache from to many strobes or I need the processor. The only time I've ever had trouble is w/ XP.
As long as presets are written right it should not crash unless your pushing it to far. To high resolution?? Spyware. Are you converting mpg movies while you have avs on. If you run out of resources anything will crash. Know your limits. Plus most all of the bugs I mentioned are are documented by ati or microsoft, they are system bugs not program relevant.

PAK-9

27th January 2005 17:31 UTC

Originally posted by natesuniverse
As long as presets are written right it should not crash unless your pushing it to far. To high resolution?? Spyware. Are you converting mpg movies while you have avs on. If you run out of resources anything will crash. Know your limits.

hboy

27th January 2005 17:47 UTC

really thoughtful and good comment, pakkie :) i couldn't agree more.

^..^

27th January 2005 17:51 UTC

yupp, so couldn't i...

would be good as the closing remarks... ;)

Mr_Nudge

29th January 2005 03:24 UTC

Originally posted by PAK-9

Even if a preset is written completely wrong it still shouldnt crash AVS, it is the duty of the compiler to trap errors and for AVS have a safe state in the event that code cannot be compiled

PAK-9

30th January 2005 16:56 UTC

Yes the compiler does trap the majority of computational errors. If you want to see how AVS deals with a certain problem use the registers.

reg00=1/0; // divide by zero
reg01=sqrt(-1); // imaginary numbers

Bring up the debug window and see what it shows. But of course the compiler obviously isnt perfect or it wouldnt crash now would it ;)

Tuggummi

31st January 2005 16:20 UTC

Originally posted by hboy
really thoughtful and good comment, pakkie :) i couldn't agree more.